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My biblical knowledge is sketchy so please bear with me.
So freewill isn't infact a gift but a repercussion of original sin?
Again bear with my sketchy knowledge.
In biblical terms, Adam, while in the Garden of Eden was following Gods will. When he chose not to, original sin was commited (which we all inherit), and was then cast out of the Garden of Eden. As we all have original sin we also inherit the freewill aspect?
Or is it the case that the freewill was always there but we weren't supposed to use it?
So Adam had the option of freewill, as he evidently used it. Yet he was supposed not to use it?
All things happen to glorify God, God is given more glory by the fall from perfection and rescue back to perfect creation, than by creation just being perfect all the way through. Ultimately, this is a difficult concept (believe me I struggle with it). Because it begs the question "is God's glory really worth it?" as far as I'm concerned, the answer is yes. And before anyone says that I only think that because I've had a cushy life, you're wrong.
More complicated how so? Surely free will is either there or it isn't. Again PM me if you like as i think we're taking this topic off on a tangent.
So in lamens terms all the evil and suffering that happens in the world as a consequence of original sin is in the name of the glory of God. Doesn't this bother you?
See, I don't get this. If God exists and created the world and is perfect and all the rest of it, why does he expect glory and praise? It all seems a bit vain, egotistical and narcissistic.
But then isnt that judging God by human standards, something that probably doesnt really work.
CptCoatHanger, history is a result of a combination of pre-destination ie God's will, and election, ie free-will.
OK, I get that. But if we can't judge him by human standards (presumably he is better than us etc), why is he so concerned with praise from humans? Its bizarre.
So freewill / election is only around when God decides not to impose his will?
Doesn't that really negate freewill as it's something that can be taken away.
I don't mean to come across as arrogant, it's just the questions that are coming into my head. I'm genuinely interested.
There must be some absolute truth in the world.
Seems rather unfair to me.
By any standards of good and bad, right and wrong, any person who live their lives helping others and being a good Samaritan should have just as every right to enter 'Heaven' as a good Samaritan who has also spent their lives signing the praises of God.
If God is the faultless, perfect being some claim he is, at least.
God is not human.
You make your own choices.
On the contrary, our concept of god is very human. How could it be otherwise?
Blah! Blah! Blah!
What about sociopaths who don't have a conscience?
In conclusion, anyone who is an egomaniac cannot be perfect, be human or deity.
So clearly God isn't a perfect being. Either that or he never intended for us to worshipping throughout our lives, and we have just been sold that by the organised religions of this world.
Which one will it be?
How is an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being human??
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