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am i autistic?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I disagree. It's my right to understanding that everybody else has.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kira wrote: »
    Why not?

    Every single one of us has things that they don't understand, and that nobody can explain to them, however hard they try. For instance, while working on a computer programming course, I couldn't grasp one particular concept that "everyone else" seemed to find a doddle. No matter how they tried, neither my tutor nor my fellow students where ever able to help me understand the problem. I just had a complete mental blank where that concept was concerned.

    This example isn't a very good parallel to your situation, but the point I am making is that no matter how smart a person is, there will always be certain things that, to them, will be completely unfathomable. In your case, you say that you don't get the complexity of social interaction. Proper diagnosis and therapy might help you a little, but the likelihood is that there will always be certain things that you will never fully understand - just as I could never make sense of that particular string of binary code.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I want to understand things that are common knowledge of human living, and that people need to know.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kira wrote: »
    I want to understand things that are common knowledge of human living, and that people need to know.

    Which no-one can do for you. There are certain things I don't understand - no amount of someone explaining it will help.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, I want it. It's my right to have it, since I am human as everybody else is. It's like saying some persons only have the right to walk.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kira wrote: »
    Well, I want it. It's my right to have it, since I am human as everybody else is. It's like saying some persons only have the right to walk.

    Not everybody does have the right to walk. I'm sure people permanently in wheelchairs would really prefer to be able to walk, but unfortunately, they can't.

    Make the best of the bad lot you've got.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    that was not my point. Walking is a natural human function, so if there were a cure then they should be given it. So I see life in an optimistic and not fatalistic way, why is that wrong? People who have afflictions should be given the right to alleviate them. I'm sure if you had a disease you would want treatment. Who would not?

    By the by, a person can hold the right to do something, even if them receiving it is unlikely.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kira wrote: »
    that was not my point. Walking is a natural human function, so if there were a cure then they should be given it. So I see life in an optimistic and not fatalistic way, why is that wrong? People who have afflictions should be given the right to alleviate them. I'm sure if you had a disease you would want treatment. Who would not?

    By the by, a person can hold the right to do something, even if them receiving it is unlikely.

    I'm not saying you can't want treatment, it's just there is none that will make understanding just *happen*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kira wrote: »
    I don't understand.

    the treatment for ASD's is just not developed enough
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But there are treatments, even though there is no cure. I accept that there is no cure. With acceptance comes peace, especially for things that we cannot change.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jim V wrote: »
    Please bear in mind that it's quite a common part of autism or ASD's that people may have varying levels of what's know as 'mindblindness'. This is a problem where people have trouble understanding that people think differently to them or that people have different understandings of the same concept or situation to them.

    So, as mentioned earlier, it's really important that people consider that someone who may have some problems with the autistic spectrum may not take on board what other people are explaining to them in the same way.

    It's perfectly valid to point out where that is occurring but when posting please try to avoid thinking that someone is going to understand what you are saying in the same way someone without autism would.

    The term normally used for people without an ASD in the ASD community is 'neurotypical' which I think is actually quite helpful to start understanding possible differences.

    People with ASD's may also experience problems with learning different or new concepts, and imitation skills can be lacking in people with ASDs or highly reduced which again causes problems around learning.

    Now I'm not making a judgment about you there Kira, I'm just pointing out to people posting that they might need to remember some of those things when replying to you.

    I know that you may be certain that everyone else understands things you don't. Not everyone does. However, it might be that you can't understand that, but as people have pointed out - that is true and maybe you'll be able to see that over time.

    However the best thing might be for you to think about whether you want to go and see a GP about this for certain or would like to just continue to talk about how you feel.

    Would you be able to say why you would want to see a GP and why you wouldn't? Then you could use that to decide and people could help you move towards getting seen, if that's what you want to do.

    And for everyone, including you Kira, bear in mind that people are diverse and different. Many people have different understandings and skill levels, including around social situations (including online message boards) and it's always worth bearing that in mind.

    There is a difference between opinion and fact. The fact is that people often form bonds to make people close with them. so in that sense, people generally (but not 100% of the time) do earn the trust/respect of others.

    Everybody does know the common knowledge, so I can also.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    G wrote: »
    There has to be some allowance of understanding to respond in the way the OP has as well?

    This is no different to people in real life. How people express themselves is relative. You said I was being abrasive, but not everybody is always polite. Not every instance of impoliteness is a symptom of illness or disability.

    Some chavs shouted in the street at me earlier, i don't care I don't know them. That doesn't denote autism.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Have you made an appointment to see a Dr now?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    grace wrote: »
    Make the best of the bad lot you've got.

    :yes:

    I am not being rude when I say this Kira, but:
    Please be grateful that unlike a friend of mine who is autistic, you don't have severe learning difficulties. (she can't talk, has to be restrained in public due to behaviour and lives in a care home because her parents can't deal with her behaviour)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Melian wrote: »
    :yes:

    I am not being rude when I say this Kira, but:
    Please be grateful that unlike a friend of mine who is autistic, you don't have severe learning difficulties. (she can't talk, has to be restrained in public due to behaviour and lives in a care home because her parents can't deal with her behaviour)

    Perhaps, but I still want resolution.

    As I said before, if there is no hope of recovery, then I will accept. Until then, I want this to be eased. I don't think anybody should be denied that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you wont get any help without a diagnosis, so if you want the help, you better get down the doctors
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What is it you want from us?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    when I suspected there were problems with my children, *I* was the one that had to visit specialists and ask for help and push for a diagnosis, because without one, no help is offered. If you get one, then you might find all sorts of help is given to you, but you wont get anything if all youre doing is going round in circles asking strangers on a message board.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Melian wrote: »
    What is it you want from us?

    to know if I am autistic or not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You wont get it here. go to the doctor. end of.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kira wrote: »
    to know if I am autistic or not.

    It does appear that you are toying with us. We've told you time and time again that we are not qualified to diagnose you and that you should see your doctor. You're just taking this thread around and around.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teagan wrote: »
    It does appear that you are toying with us. We've told you time and time again that we are not qualified to diagnose you and that you should see your doctor. You're just taking this thread around and around.

    And even if someone on here is able to diagnose someone with ASDs, there's no way it can be done over the internet.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teagan wrote: »
    It does appear that you are toying with us. We've told you time and time again that we are not qualified to diagnose you and that you should see your doctor. You're just taking this thread around and around.


    Well, I think I have autism since:

    - I don't get the complexity of human interaction
    - I cannot make conversation well
    - I find social interaction confusing

    But since nobody here is a doctor, then I will make an appointment with the doctor.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Melian wrote: »
    And even if someone on here is able to diagnose someone with ASDs, there's no way it can be done over the internet.

    Well there is nothing wrong with wanting treatment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i dont know what you mean by the truths of life

    Everything you (in a collective sense) have said to me is the truths of life that everyone knows.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    kira wrote: »
    Everything you (in a collective sense) have said to me is the truths of life that everyone knows.

    And now you know them too.

    (What truths of life have we told you?)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Will it seriously affect your day-to-day life that you have now? Or do you want a diagnosis just so you can say you're autistic?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    circles.
    round in.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    circles.
    round in.

    Exactly.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    grace wrote: »
    And now you know them too.

    (What truths of life have we told you?)

    that everybody has a different understanding and that people are diverse.

    And that we should take responsibility for our own lives.
    Will it seriously affect your day-to-day life that you have now? Or do you want a diagnosis just so you can say you're autistic?

    No. But I want clarification so I can see why I find social interaction difficult.
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