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But they will one day maybe stop working.
Vista is the future.
EDIT:
From my good friends over at Windows-Now.com
What do you think about that then!
I'm thinking you could be right :yes:
*coolme* headphones i want wont break for a good while i'd imagine, long after vistas gone most probably
nyom
No. Technically you pay all that for a different licensing model. Vista OEM is not transferable, so you need a new copy for each different motherboard. However, how this translates into real life is yet to be proven, because the XP OEM license was no better in this regard, but was not really enforced. You could probably still get away with buying the OEM version, upgrading, and telling microsoft that your motherboard fried and you had to replace it.
Either way, I think it would be a no-brainer to buy OEM myself, as you could get three copies for the price of one retail version.
Personally, i think I will be waiting until there is better support for stuff under 64 bit. I don't seem much point in upgrading to 32 bit Vista.
Is that a Windows Logo i see there
BTW, there's quite a lot of coverage on the transferring of licence to motherboard to motherboard, and it seems it's completely fine. In fact, if you keep many of the rest of your system components the same, it will just register an upgrade and not even prompt you to revalidate.
I was looking at 64 / 32 bit, and dunno if 64 bit is worth it for my needs tbh. It seems it's like raid set ups - good for high intensity usage like a server, but for average use it wont make a hell of a lot of difference. Maybe a few seconds shaved off video encoding and the like.
Yes, but the machine's running macos :flirt:
Isn't that against the EULA? :mad:
Using right click is probably against the EULA, I mean you might cause damage!!!
I mean Mac OS AFAIK it's illegal to install it on anything other than a Mac...
But hey continue to rip Windows because it's not like you use it ever, is it? :razz:
Only because the user is forcing the poor windows logo!
I started by looking where the hell I was going to install it. To make sure I was safe in case something went wrong, I didn't want to delete my XP partition. So what I did was to first uninstall loads of crap, and use cccleaner to clean the drive a bit. It cleaned 3gigs, and I uninstalled about 15 gigs of games I dont play on anymore (who knew Medieval II took 8 gigabytes?). Down to about 80 gigabytes, I think that's a safe level on my 250 gigabyte primary hard drive. So I run partition magic, tells me to remove the partition I had set aside for linux (I tend to just use vmware player), then resize my NTFS partition to 116gb (approximately 50% of the hard drive.
It managed that fine! :yippe: Last time it crapped up the XP boot loader and I couldn't get it to boot.
So then loaded into Windows, popped in the Vista CD, but then before it loaded the computer wanted another restart. Something about new hardware device. Something to do with my partitioning magic?
So, back in XP, autoload the CD drive, install to drive h (I should have deactivated my virtual drives first... doh!) and then type in my CD key. Asks if I want to download updates whilst installing, I say yea.
Leave it for about 30 to 40 minutes, it was installed and nearly ready to go. Set time and things. Restarted then, not sure if it was supposed to as it said 'welcome to your first time in windows'. In my second time, it loaded into windows, 800 x 600 resolution. Nice :yeees:. Head over to ati.com, they've already got Vista drivers, install them, restart, wahey I've got my lovely screen back. Turn on Aero, hmmm nice on the eyes. It's still Windows though, so don't expect to be orgasmic just yet.
Set up Windows Mail for my university email, but it's not picked up any mail from my inbox. Maybe it only downloads new mail? So just checking out whether it plays my divx encoded films out of the box without all the codec packs. I can't navigate through my computer as it's a bit alien to me, so trying out Windows search.
'Top Gear'.
15 seconds later, it's already found the top gear folder on my secondary hard drive on my films partition (which is mainly filled with porn tbh, that went down great with the girlfriend...).
Ok, first one has no video but sound (it's an .avi, but the rest which are .wmv do work, which is amusing as to get them to work in XP I have to use media player classic, otherwise it gets no sound. And even in media player classic it stalls if you pause it, i.e. the video freezes and you need to restart it).
Erm, so all in all seems pretty seamless. Using internet explorer at the minute, will set about installing clutter in a bit . Going to install anti virus now. Why am I up so late? *shrugs*
Any requests accepted, but all in all very painless and very compatible with everything I've got - XP SP2 needed my onboard LAN drivers installed off the motherboard CD, whereas Vista has picked them up straight away. Will check actually on the driver status, in case I have the 50 Microsoft Generics of the apocalypse.
Mine is
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz 5.6
Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 5.9
Graphics Radeon X1950 Pro 5.9
Gaming graphics 1023 MB Total available graphics memory 5.8
Primary hard disk 106GB Free (116GB Total) 5.3
It's determined by the lowest score, mine being my hard disk, so 5.3 isn't bad .
eta: I like the search. I typed 'daemon tools' in the start menu and it found me my installer straight away amongst all the junk on my other HDD. It's very effective if within < 1 hour, it has already scanned my hard drives. Takes about 10 - 15 seconds for a search.
Also, when it first booted up, vanilla, it uses about 480mb ram. I'd say 512 to be on the safe side tho.
Can't think of many other things to say but Well done!:D
If anyone ever present that argument again, I will destroy them. Just because I use something means I can't complain if it doesn't work? Ffs.
So I can't moan if my car is shit, because I use it?
Anyway. So Vista has working search again unlike XP? Bonus. I missed search.
Also, since I now have killed Vista entirley (haha!) was there a way to get back the normal start menu and not the gay one that flips over? I want the pop-up take the whole screen start, because scrolling through all my installed programs does my nut in. Best thing they did with XP was lose the scrolly start menu.
Used 480mb ram to boot? That's stupid. Madness I declare. Good job you have 2 gig.
That must be wrong! Im running on 1gig and im Fineee!:thumb:
Not directly from the menu within 10-15 seconds:)
Yea but then again, google desktop works pretty well.
But from using Vista, the polish and the seemless integration of the new features is really good.
The main complaint is not with features, but with some functionality. For example, I couldn't install a codec pack because it said I had to be the local administrator. I was the local administrator. So then I had to turn user account control (UAC for short) off, which required a reboot.
And what it is it with the power off weird mode. If I'm watching a film, I won't touch the keyboard for an hour or so, this triggers 'power off' mode. Of course, it waits till the film has finished, but then off it goes. Pressing enter a few times wakes it up again though. Still, annoying.
Also, it would be good, except the power button on my computer flashes whilst it's in this mode (basically all the running programs are saved and the computer shuts down, like hibernate but a bit faster) - which means sleep is impossible :grump:.
Also, installing daemon tools so far has proved impossible. I guess Vista doens't like you fucking about with SCSI drives heh.
I got Supreme Commander (Games for Windows Vista, apparently) and ArmA. Put the supcom dvd in, dvd drive spins up, just keeps spinning like it cant find anything. Same happened when i tried to watch the devil wears prada.
So off to install ArmA.
I'm thinking about putting it on:)
I remember someone saying something about this and here you go
It *may* be because I'm using a no-cd patch. Because I don't have the cd
Could be anything