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Yes it is. Just because you don't like the answer, it doesn't mean that I haven't answered it.
Is everyone's sense of right and wrong correct?
So you admit that the bible contradicts itself?
The way you phrase it is too simplistic. Its not a question that has a yes/no answer.
Given that we all know there's a huge variety of sexual desires, it's easiest to think of as a large circle full of all our different passions, presumably growing bigger if ever a new kick is discovered.
It's clear from the total absence of a particular factor exclusive to gays including emotional trauma or unusual parenting (they would have found it) that homosexuality is just another perfectly natural expression of human sexuality. It's within the circle in which all these varieties of human desires blend and flow - not a wierd variant that needs explaining.
It's not going to be explained by chemicals or psychology or a peculiarity of brain structure, anymore than a liking of big tits or redheads would be, it's part of the same picture. The question didn't need an answer.
you've got a very simplistic view of human beings
You're being very simpleminded.
Actually I quoted Christ as well. No contradiction there.
I have.
Is everyone's sense of right and wrong correct?
Its not a question that can be answered yes/no. If you think it is then you haven't thought about it enough. I have answered it based on my feelings of where a moral sense comes from - empathy. I believe that every human being is capable of empathy, but this very much depends on early development, life experience etc. You're looking for simple answers to very complex issues.
Good Post.............
Maybe you have a simplistic view of humans, but I don't.
You are a fine one to take people to task for ducking questions.
In the first place, I'd rather like a response to my last (but one?) post, which was directed specifically at you.
In the second,
What's that, if not ducking a question? Leviticus puts 'lying with man as with woman' in much the same bracket as eating shellfish, going near your wife when she's menstruating, wearing mixed cloths and various other things. Why get steamed up about homosexuality if you're not bothered about the others? Isn't that a fine example of prioritising the bits of the Bible that best suit your own views and prejudices?
And genes Mr Lysenko
"The results show a genetic contribution of 42% of the
reliable variance to pro-social behaviour for men and
women combined. The results also support the contention
of Krueger et al. (2001) that pro-social behavior may have a
significant proportion of the variance due to common family
environment (23% of the reliable variance)."
And would you care to quote me "getting steamed up about homosexuality" please?
No, because later on in the Bible (according to my understanding) Jesus himself says that actually those diet things arent important anymore. Thus that section is sort of repealed where as the 'laying with man' bit isnt.
It is also generally held that the sin resulting in the destruction of Sodom, was homosexuality. However, there is NO evidence in the Bible to back this up. In fact it is quite possible to conclude that the Bible has nothing whatsoever to say on the subject.
:banghead: I have.
Any thoughts?
The 'getting steamed up' wasn't specifically a reference to yourself - plenty of Christians have a bee in their bonnet about sexuality issues. But perhaps you could answer the substance of my question rather than playing with semantics?
he even repeals the captial punishments fans favourite "eye for an eye tooth for a tooth" suggesting that christians should just let people be and lead by example as he done
Without going and hunting down the specific scripture. The bible says that the ONLY people who have to attempt to live with biblical morality are Christians. We are expressly told NOT to judge non-christians (at all for the record) according to the standards of the bible. Christians are a different matter of course, but even then we need to bear in mind that salvation is not won by what we do.
Is the question....should Christian beliefs be given a higher status than others? Its unclear.
If it is, then no. But you have to accept that they are more important to those who follow the faith.
Yes of course a Christian shouldn't expect everyone else to follow their scripture, but at the same time, those who dont should respect it, even if they dont follow it.
Multi-faith and multi-cultural societies can work if everyone realises that they dont have the definate answer, that there is always room for debate and discussion.