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Other parties have immigration policies too you know, which work at regulating the border more and making sure only skilled workers, with workable understandable English to be allowed into the country.
Indeed. The fact is, illegal immigrants aside (I'm sure everyone can agree that they shouldn't be here), economic migrants would not come to this country if there was no work for them. They couldn't take 'our' jobs if 'we' were already in them!
On another note, how indigenous do you need to be to be an indigenous Brit? Just out of interest.
So why not then vote for UKIP or one of the independents who may also raise any concerns about immigration? Why vote for what is, essentially, a Nazi party? You don't just get the immigration question looked at by voting BNP, but you get a party where nearly every one of their leaders has had criminal charges brought against them including racism, violence etc. There are repugnant repercussions for voting for the BNP that extend far further than mere immigration. That's why you need to dig deeper into a party's manifesto than just concentrating on the froth.
Also if anti-racists have to use the word "nazi" against everyone who is racist it shows they don't know how to argue a point, as just because someone is racist it certainly does not mean they agree with the ideology of the German nazi party.
I think a lot of BNP supporters just think fewer people would mean more jobs and houses, they don't think about the immigrants themselves. It's not that they don't think of them as people, it's that they don't think of them at all. I don't think that in itself makes them racist, because it seems to be more to do with wanting to achieve a practical result. We all do it to some extent anyway, and it's often nothing to do with hating that particular group.
I many people support the BNP for those reasons, and because they're often immediately hated for these beliefs, their thoughts and analysis of the BNP stop there. There are rational reasons behind their decision to vote for the BNP, even if the BNP themselves would make the problem worse.
If the BNP supporters believe they're being unfairly treated compared with ethnic minorities in one sense, and they're labelled 'Nazi' because of it, they're going to feel that ethnic minorities have the advantage in every sense, which will make the problem worse.
I think many of the problems connected to immigration have little to do with immigrants themselves. If anything, it was Labour that allowed the growth of the BNP to continue for so long. Why put the effort and money into building council houses when people are blaming immigration? As long as immigration was being blamed, no one cared about the fact that they weren't building any more, despite more people by theirs and the gap between rich and poor increasing so much.
Missing Teagan's point completely. They might not be anymore, but they certainly were modelled on them to begin with.
Irrelevant - the Whigs were taken from the aristocrats, Labour were a socialist party and the Tories were state protectionists.
The BNP is not a Nazi party
But why should our country fork out for immigrants? No other country is stupid enough to.
Every country is "stupid enough" to. What d'you think would happen if all of our foreign doctors and nurses went home tomorrow? You see this is the problem. You think you're paying for immigrants. You're not. They're paying for you. They actually do a job and pay taxes. I assume because of your age, you're a student of some description. If not, they're at least paying their way. EU immigrants in particular have a pattern of only staying short term. So basically, they come in for some of the best years of their working lives, and then leave before they need pensions or the levels of healthcare that older people tend to need.
But what about the rest who don't work and who I see hanging round on street countries scaring old ladies?
Lyric, my hometown is one which has a very high population of Eastern European immigrants, all of them work very hard (and in jobs that the general population would think beneath them) and I've never seen one of them hanging round on the street scaring old ladies. The people I see doing that are the wonderful local people of Braintree, hanging round the Job Centre smoking and drinking and shouting abuse and clearly not giving a shit.
I'm an old lady, and you sure scare me sometimes :crazyeyes
... sre you talking about teenagers here?
What the hell? Are you reading any of this before you write it?
Seriously, I've been doing my job for over 7 years now. In that time I have encountered about 2 or 3 immigrants who could be considered criminals. I'm sure other cops will have encountered more and some will have encountered less. I will also admit that some large cities do have varying problems of Eastern European pickpocket gangs who send young children out to steal from the unwary.
In that same time period I have dealt with THOUSANDS of "native" british people who are feckless, antisocial, criminal wankers who think a good idea for a Friday night is to smash the windows of an elderly woman's house or to get pissed up and stamp on a 14 year old girl's face.
I deal with young kids in school who are victims of their own upbringings. Their parents have lived a life of unemployment and crime and their kids are going the same way. The few immigrant children who attend my schools are impeccably behaved, they work hard and their parents are SO polite and grateful that they have been welcomed and given a place in our society they will literally do anything to make it work.
I know a young Vietnamese boy who within 3 months of arriving here, not being able to speak a word of English now has a better command of the English language than most of his friends. I have no idea how he did it because neither his parents or the school could afford to give him a tutor. He didn't even have an interpreter....
Now if I had a choice between an immigrant family like the above who are willing to bend over backwards to integrate, will work all the hours God sends at a menial job that nobody else wants to do or your parents who refuse to get off their lazy backsides and think scamming the state out of thousands of pounds of my money because working in a sandwich factory or on a farm as a labourer is beneath them, I know who I'd rather have living next door to me.
This may sound harsh to you Lyric, but you really are spouting a load of uninformed bollocks.
what the feck are you on about?
Im sorry, but you really are sounding stupid, stop now please. You dont know what your on about!
The people who are scaring these "old ladies" are the brits, they are the ones that are causing the trouble, costing the country millions a year to clean up the path of destruction that they leave behind.
I agree that immagration needs to be tightened, that there needs to be a well constructed points system that only lets people in the uk where jobs are needed. But dont pretty much say that immagrants are soley (spelling?!) the ones to blame for why our country is in the state that its in now. God, as geneve said if it wasnt for these well paid nurse and doctors that are coming in from other countries with higher tax bands YOUR family wouldnt get the benefits so they dont have to work.
You need to do your research more.
At least they are working! It's the ones who don't and claim all kinds of benefits!
Please don't go on about my mum and dad, because I know they claim benefits. Well, my mum actually has a part time job now. But I am not my mum and dad. I am me and I work.
And so do the vast majority of immigrants. Doing the jobs that you don't want to, or can't do.
The majority of immigrants work, I know where I live we had a lot of polish people come over and they work on the buses, opened car washes even their own food shops and hairdressers. Whenever I go past the job centre I never see any immigrants queuing to sign on!