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An anti-social old person?
An anti-social asian person?
An anti-social gay person?
An anti-social wheel-chair user?
An anti-social mother?
I really am interested. These sorts of people must exist and so far I have just heard the words 'yob' and 'hooligan' in reference to young people. Oh yeah...cuz ageism against the yoooofs of today is alright :yeees:
Maybe people should stop attempting to demonise young PEOPLE by inventing stupid blanket terms such as 'yob' and attempt at finding the cause of the behaviour being committed. Teenagers are a fully functioning part of society. Some work in those shops to keep it open. Some have jobs and pay taxes to keep the shop open. Some purchase good there..to keep the shop open. You get the idea. Why should someone who contributes to society be treated like a pest?
Look at the name 'teen repellent'. Message going out there to young people:
We want to REPEL you
We don't want you
And what a respectful way to physically carry out this message by blasting their ear-drums with this ultrasonic noise. Now if it were targetting any other group apart from young people then others would be up in arms. But it's okay because too many people in this country prefer to rely on their own unfounded prejudices than deal with facts. :thumb:
Because the honest answer would reveal your position as hypocritical, which you've done a great job of proving by refusing to answer it anyway.
Yes, because it's equally ridiculous and ageist.
It's clear MattLiverpool is going to continue his bumbling politician act and avoid the simple question. Perhaps WhoWhere can take it from here?
eh??? I don't want to chase any old people. Jeeeeez
No the device is making the mistake.
Therefore it is a mistake
Lol you have the wrong end of the stick.
Yeah I'm all for setting up those devices to scare away the fatties!!
:rolleyes: I mean c'mon!!
The comment about us only thinking and ourselves was rather rude and unnecessary by the way SG
And again i could post up a picture of some granny beaten up by black non-teen muggers in brixton and say:
"Take a look at the picture of the victim again. That is the cost of not moving a few black people from a shop. If we can prevent thata few times, it is well worth the distrubance to a few black people."
I would say it's just as bad because it's discriminating against a huge group of people. Nobody should be trying to deter anyone from a public place because, as Rachael said, it's saying that nobody wants them there and that creates even more problems.
You're just trying to pick an argument, and a pointless one because nobody is that stupid, and trying to insinuate that we're only against this because we happen to be in the demographic that are being affected is incredibly insulting and rude.
Any device selectively made to ward off a certain group of people i'd object to as well. What a odd view you have on things.
And that's the question we've been asking Matt for the past several pages, and he's done nothing but dodge it and offer half answers. My answer would be no, of course, otherwise why would I bring it up?
No one's breaking the law when entering a chippy - fatty or otherwise.
Matt: I understand you're incensed at gangs of young people beating up folk, but it's no more common - or any different - than, say, fights on a Saturday night after pub closing. I think a fair comparison would be you or I swaying out of a pub on a Friday night only to have a police officer continuously poke you in the head, regardless of what you were doing, until you'd got at least two streets away.
Right okay then, an absolutely real life alternative. Do you support extra security measures at airports and other forms of public transport aimed only at people of middle-eastern origin? So for example, all the black and white people can go about their business, but asian people have to have their bags scanned, for example?
Just forget it, i give up on you in this thread, it's a lost cause...
You know perfectly well Maladjusted's point.
Few of you spare a thought for those who suffer because of this mindless filth. Why on earth should an owner of a shop have to live and work in fear just because of some teenagers standing outside his place of business? Why on earth should anyone have to put up with verbal and physical abuse for simply trying to go about their daily lives?
What most of you seem to be missing - deliberately, I suspect - is the fact that most teenagers have absolutely nothing to worry about. They don't spend their time lingering outside shops, waiting to beat someone up at random. If you walk past one of these, you're unlikely to hear much at all. You've got to put up with it for several minutes before it takes an effect.
Well you complained that the black example was just a hypothetical example that would result in no real benefit, so I'm giving you a dilemma that is a real life one instead, that would have the same "benefits" as these mosquito devices, albiet for a different crime.
So a device which worked the same way but only on drunk people outside a pub should be fine then.
So as soon as it gets past a certain number of crimes it's okay to discriminate, is essentially what you're saying?
The very same argument you are putting forward could be used to justify imposing a curfew on black people in Brixton.
Oh dear.
You don't half talk some shite you know that?
Just your general shitty attitude towards young people and the contradictions in your posts.