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Jobless Couple With 12 Children Are Given £500,00 House
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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23405477-details/%20Scrounging%20%20family%20gets%20%C2%A3500,000%20house%20from%20council/article.do
Talk about a f*cking disgrace...
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Despite the fact that nearly all of them are of school age anyway, so would spend most of the week at school.
Talk about a f*cking disgrace...
Some people may think we're a bunch of spongers, but it's not true
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When asked why they don't work, the couple say that looking after their children is a full time job
Despite the fact that nearly all of them are of school age anyway, so would spend most of the week at school.
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The only "normal" names in there are the boys ones. The house should be taken off them just for naming their child "Kalifornya" ffs.
But I think this is fucking ridiculous. When Rich can't even get a decent one-bedroom flat despite working hard all week and earning above the average for people who've been out of uni as long as he has, it makes me so angry to see things like this. Particularly when a good proportion of what he earns from working days like yesterday (he was at work from 7:30 til 11pm) goes to scroungers like them.
Grr. Argh.
They don't, it's housing benefit.
No offence, but I don't really have a problem with someone with 12 children being housed in a £500k house (not bad for 8 bedrooms). Obviously there's an issue with people bringing children into the world that they have no way of paying for, but what are you going to do? Castrate them? Put their kids into care (because we all know how successful that is don't we)? Force them all to live in a three bedroom terrace? What have the kids done wrong? And naturally, you get all the fucking snobs claiming they're the wrong sort to live round here.
The main issue here is that the bloke would get less money working, than he would claiming benefits. I do reckon he's using that as a bit of an easy answer though, since he could do courses which would get him better qualifications for free, so perhaps he hasn't been advised properly. But obviously the imbalance in how much he would earn needs to be addressed. Also the title of Britains Biggest scroungers can't exactly do much for the self-esteem of the kids in school, so it's in thier interest that one of the parents works. I'm sick of this "If I work a 40 hour week, I only get paid £20 more than I'd earn on benefits." So fucking what? And you'll save a fortune on the amount everyone else has to pay out on benefits. If there's a job that needs doing that will earn you the same amount or more than your benefits, you should be doing it (I recognise it's not always as simple as that, but we should at least stop accepting that as a legitimate excuse).
But there's also the question of where's the money going. How can they afford to run two cars?
Most typical multi-bedroom houses are going to be worth half a million nowadays anyway. It's not as if they've been handed over a luxury estate mansion. But if they have 12 kids they're going to need something very large.
ETA It's not as if they are being "given" it either. They don't own the property, they rent it.
It does suck big donkey balls to think you'd be better off staying at home than working full-time, less able to be hands-on when raising your child though. Although it's a poo pants situation, I think it's better to stay at home than to work full-time and be poorer.
Love the comments at the bottom.
All that at the tax-payers' expense and they can afford to smoke as well. How can they justify claiming Jobseeker's Allowance when neither have the faintest intention of working for a living? These idiots deserve to be squeezed into a three-bedroomed house, if I was a taxpayer in Berkshire I'd be absolutely livid.
What with 12 kids? Bit of an idiot thing to say, harldy the kids fault now is it.
Still tho, 500k house , 12 kids ..... im gonna get shagging me thinks
Nor the house has actually been 'given' to them... the whole article is classic right wing tabloid bollocks.
As MoK has said, this certainly no worse than the tens of thousands who abuse the system to avoid paying the taxes they should... though bizarrely that does not appear to bother some of the people who are so incensed at this.
They receive the equivalent of £44,000 a year in benefits, a figure made up of £1,500 a month housing benefit; £1,200 a month child tax credit; £560 a month child benefits; £280 job seeker's allowance and £1,600 a year in council tax.
as stated before its a large house and its a large family .. wouldnt really say its bad abuse of the system
people get so wound up over it i dont really understand it.. youd think they were coming up and taking the money out of your pocket.. youre gonna get taxed either way
its the new bandwagon eh!
I'm sure looking after their children IS a full time job, in case you haven't noticed there are TWELVE of them!
I agree with Aladdin,
Oh and that journalist is a bit shit - the ages and spellings of the children's names changes all the way through.
Dad says he used to earn £350 a month at Asda, did he never consider perhaps applying for something a bit better paid?
Surely only of them could work a few hours a day?
I'd suggest that if you accept the game, then whining and moaning about ANY participants doing well makes you appear a bit of a spoilsport.
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My thoughts exactly.
They should lose the JSA if they're not job-seeking... (Although no doubt they'd then invent a disability and start claiming incapacity).
Don't you need an assessment for that before claiming to prove what you say you havem you really have got?
The thing is, even if one of them got a part time job, they could still claim WFTC so wouldnt necessarily be worse off, but it would be a hell of a lot harder to look after the kids probably with so many of them.
As has been said, its not their house anyway so they havent been given it. Theyve just been housed somewhere thats big enough for their needs. I dont see the big deal.
Id rather that than see a big family cramped into a tiny house. 8 bedrooms they still will mostly all be sharing rooms.
Who cares what their snobby neighbours think.
They'd probably be a lot better off not working than if they had part time jobs.
You can't make people work... Some people are better off on benefits too.
I don't think it's so much a problem that people don't want to work, I just think that a lot of it is self-esteem and also, why would you wanna work 40 hours a week in macDonalds and just about be able to afford a flatshare when you can not work and get a council house?
I think it is lot more to do with problems greater than a simple refusal to work and not something which can be challenged by being more authoritarian.
Yeah like forced labour, why should these people take so much from the system without putting anything back into it?
They are no better off than any other couple on benefits living in a council house, it's just the figures that look impressive when multiplied up. £44,000 a year doesn't go very far when divided down over 14 people. Once you have taken off the annual housing benefit entitlement which wouldn't be cash in their hands anyhow, it leaves them with £35 per head per week for food, utility bills, debts etc.
But, any parents who call their kids Parris-Jordan, Kesla Blu, Mason, Peaches, Skye and Kalifornya needs some sort of government help.
I do agree about the names though!