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I hear what you are saying, there is usually a hidden agenda somewhere.
There is a good article on the programme here for anyone whos interested.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/dominic_lawson/article2318675.ece
Even if the programme makers did have an axe to grid against the enviromentalists, surely Channel 4 and would not show a programme which was made up? There must be some scientifc fact in this somewhere.
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http://www.climatedenial.org/
Interesting :yes:
Yea, I only mentioned it because someone asked about it.
Nothing to do with picking pockets ?
Interesting indeed.
It seems to be more religion than science.
I find that ironic in that the author is attacking the scientific "credentials" of anyone who dares to ask questions.
erm the bulk of research at there contradicts what these people say, actually they say the effects are neglibible compared the human effects of burning fossil fuels and deforestation combined
peer review actually works believe it or not
However, there are other reasons not to go out and buy a Bentley. First of all, the oil will run out one day, so we must use it sparingly. Secondly, Sulphur and nitrogen oxides created by burning fossil fuels cause acid rain, which is a separate problem entirely.
What about a 4x4
may i ask if you have you read anything on it?
the changes in the past 200 years are best explained by man made CO2 emissions, the sun has an effect recent studies have shown but not to the level purposted on the show last night
Man affects it, and makes it significantly worse, but the climate is constantly changing without man being there burning the fossil fuels and spraying the aerosols. The Greenhouse Effect is entirely natural, but man is just making it worse.
I have half a tree worth of notes on it, don't argue with me (or rather, the IBO, they're a scary bunch...) :grump:.
i think we both make the same point in different ways there
Orsomething...
yeah climate change occurs naturally. but from one ice age to peak temp and back to ice age takes (give or take) 100,000 years.
that documentary was completly biased and just trying to stir up some shit
edit; i do agree with the second paragraph though.
jsut to add lovely comment from one of the speakers on the show itself
http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article2359057.ece
Just a shame the documentary had such a hidden agenda. It would have been interesting to hear some unbiased opposing opinions to the climate change brigade.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1517515.ece
I thought a student of Marx would understand and perhaps agree with the political and economic validity of that statement.
on the balance of all the evidence and the fact most of the people opposing this have very vested interests, or no care for keeping things in context (if you bothered to the read the letter from the oceanographer who appeared on the tv show) you don't think that we are affecting the overall climate?
like all things in nature it's a giant equilibirum and the huge amount pumped into the atmosphere naturally would generally be counterattacked by photosynthesis from all the plantlife and ocean absorbance. All we are doing is destroying the main biomass that is the rainforests and producing all the extra gases that were originally captured as oil/coal/gas/limestone(which is fossilised sealife in bulk) etc
The principle manner in which we have to deal with global warming if we beleive that it is man made is to cut carbon emissions.
But we have to do this anyway because carbon fuel sources are running out and need to be replaced anyway.
So from a policy perspective the objective is clear in the longterm at least, whatever the conclusion on global warming being manmade or not.........
Have you ever contributed something to a thread?
On a physiological level the fact that you are quoting me the answer would have to be "yes".
However, I have a sneaky suspicion you are not talking physiological.
If my suspicions prove correct, would you be so kind as to let me know what you mean ? Please