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chased ...thrown to the floor ...five bullets pumped into his head ...his only crime ...running.
what the hell is going on?
this sounds more like gangsters than highly trained coppers.
survive the terrorists and be shot by the cops.
what the hell is going on?
this sounds more like gangsters than highly trained coppers.
survive the terrorists and be shot by the cops.
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But if he had a bomb it would have been the right desicion?
Stupid cunt shouldn't have run away.
His crime? Being dark-skinned.
The police/MI6 officers should be tried, and convicted, for murder.
fair enough some of you might say, "i might of ran", but you had repeated warnigs from armed officers
Anyway, we can't possibly know now what motivation was behind the chase, it's probably not entirely unreasonable to say that someone who doesn't stop running when someone shouts "STOP! Armed Police!" should be shot for being so stupid.
Agreed. If he didn't run he wouldn't have died.
how do they know he couldnt speak english?
you can hardly talk to him once he has been shot
That was my first thought, but I wonder if the plain-clothes officers actually declared themselves police, because otherwise it would just be 20 (?) guys threatening to shoot you. If it's obvious, it's his own fault, but if it's anything less I don't blame him.
Why should they?
What right do armed police have to stop me at all?
What right do armed police have to shoot at me with no provocation.
Killing in cold blood is murder. I don't think the "armed police" were from anywhere except an office block in Vauxhall.
I'll say one thing: on BBC News there was a picture of a police van outside one of the suspect houses. I've never ever seen a police van like it before. Something stinks more than last night's curry.
It's starting.
If you suspected that someone could have a bomb and could potentially kill tens if not hundreds of innocent people, would you shoot them?
I don't know the ins and outs but it could easily be a case of the greater good, then again it might not.
If you are going to hold a gun to someone's head and fire five bullets into it, you have got to be fucking CERTAIN that they are a bomber. A suspicion isn't enough, I'm afraid.
Note that the police never suspected him of having a bomb, they suspected him of being an acquaintance of the bombers.
Yeah, lots of people are saying that. One dead innocent bny mistake is loads better than hundreds of hypothetical dead innocents. After all, he's only a dirty paki, who gives a fuck?
Bet more people would care if it was a pretty young white girl who it happened to.
Those who have read A Handmaid's Tale and 1984 have been warned. It's starting.
It's enough for me. The SAS did it in Gibralter and that was enough for most people.
You are the only one putting a racial spin on this.
In a way that's true, but could be a bit of a risk don't you agree? If you were given the decision to kill someone or risk hundreds being killed, I know which I'd choose. If they waited till it was certain they could have been too late. In this case it wasn't a bomber or anything, but if it was it could have made a very different story.
That's why I said I don't know the ins and outs...I didn't know that.
True that, but it doesn't automatically make it racism.
I haven't, but are you referring to how everyone will become unstable and on edge and make stupid choices because they're paranoid?
The Israelis don't kill suicide bombers unless they are forced to. And if they don't then the Met certainly don't need to.
"We want his buddies not his body".
We are in a state of emergency. Expect it to be declared certainly before the end of the year.
And don't expect this "dangerous time" to ever cease.
I'm not good at wording things, I edited my post. Damn, you quoted me
I don't expect it to cease. I'm waiting for World War 3, but still wondering just what I'm going to do when it happens.
Oh, don't worry about World War Three. I don't expect one.
I expect that the Government will convince us that there is one, and the odd explosion will certainly help them along in convincing Joe Public that he doesn't need his civil liberties because of the "terrorists".
As for what you'll do? You'll just keep your head down, shop in your neighbours to protect yourself, and try to get on with life knowing that the Government could, at any time, chase you into a tube station and blow the back of your head off.
What do you mean by that?
If I'm being a little slow, it's because I haven't had sleep in 28 hours, I'm not really up to intelligent conversation
he obviously wasn't running cos he had anything to do with terrorism and bombs.
is running or being scared now an executable offence?
are you realy happy to have a police force that behaves like this?
wrong information wrong behaviour resulting in a dead innocent.
if they get away with this i expect nothing less than civil disobedience from a very large section of the citezens of the uk.
That dark blue coloured van? That was a bomb disposal unit.
In this case I think they were justified and if a similar situation arose I would hope they would do it again.
Same as they did with the IRA in Gib.
I don't agree with what was done I'm just saying I can see why it was done. It was wrong but if they felt there was a reasonable risk that's probably why they did it, better one than one hundred innocent people dead.
To be honest I don't really know much about this story though, so ignore me if I'm being ignorant to details
Don't worry about it.
By "shopping in" I mean you will tell the authorities that your neighbours are the evil anti-government conspirators, and should be punished, so that suspicion does not fall on yourself.
It is a common thing in totalitarian dictatorships. You tell the authorities that they want Mr Smith down the road so that they don't come and get you.
Well that's one monkey for the organ grinder converted.
you next ...will your family be so understanding?
it's not supposed to be like this so i'lll ask here what i asked in p&d ...who's winning ...us or the terrorists?
from where i'm standing it certainly doesn't look like us ...