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You may find it really sad, but that's what I live my life for now, it's not like I'm not doing anything, and not having any fun, and fortunatly, nothing requires me to starve to death to avoid sin.
Because their actions cause misery and suffering to other people. Not that hard to work out surely?
I find it extremely sad that your life matters so little to you. Its all you have.
So? Why is that wrong?
It's not all I have.
Are you being serious? :eek:
It is. There is no afterlife. Its a myth.
Yes, dare you to answer.
Because hurting people is wrong. How do I know that? Because I can empathise.
After reading your interchange, I think we can all decide for ourselves who really believes that humans are capable of "love, compassion, and empathy".
For someone who bases his entire morality on these human emotions, you perhaps need to start being less amoral, Blagsta. I found some of those posts offensive and that was just me reading as an observer. Perhaps you owe Fiend an apology?
As for the stealing a loaf of bread to prevent starvation, I think Jesus would probably have more to say to the person who condemned the thief than with the thief himself. Read John 8 sometime.
Also, can a bible-believing Christian not believe exactly what you believe within the basis of Christ's teaching in its biblical context anyway? What makes your beliefs special?
Well said...
It's funny how people get banned for making homophobic comments and get in trouble for calling working class people 'scum', but people can bitch all day about Christianity and slag off people who follow the religion like it's the new black.
Even if someone can't comprehend the idea of beliving in a god, it doesn't allow them to make personal attacks, and that won't be permitted. It is however maybe the oldest topic of discussion that has ever exsisted so it's always going to be heated.
So maybe, whatever side of the arguement everyone is on, people need to remember that this is about discussion, and that can mean difficult questions that challenge everything to do with faith. But ulimately, when talking about this I agree that certain people should start putting into place the empathy they rate so highly.
You gonna give some evidence for that, or not?
LOL!
Sorry, what do I owe an apology for?
Eh?
The only personal attacks I've made have been when I've already answered Fiend's questions at least twice, but she insists on saying I haven't. Its quite obvious that Fiend has a real problem with anyone who challenges her fundamental belief system and refuses to actually read and engage with what I'm saying, instead she accuses me of avoiding the question, when in reality I have answered in several times.
Well there's no evidence for the afterlife is there?
Who has attacked who for their religion?
Thats what I've been doing - questioning religion. Yes, I got a little heated, due to being frustrated at Fiend's stubborn inability actually read my posts properly for which I apologise. But it seems to be that certain people on here have a real difficulty when someone questions the fundamental basis of their belief, it seems to cause some kind of cognitive dissonance, which results in them not actually being able to properly read, think and follow a thread.
The exact same evidence as you put forward for their being a state, mate. :yes:
"It's there because people believe it is!!!!"
Rich in irony my diet is.
Errr....no, its quite different. The state has power over people, power to throw people in jail, power to bomb Iraq etc.
Rich in idiocy.
Really? I thought it was people who think the state is there who do those things, based on their unquantifiable belief that it exists. You are saying that god and the afterlife exist if the "church" has those powers then?
All I see is individuals acting on a mistaken belief. What do you see? Are there beams of light going from "state" person to person? Is it some sort of microwave? Or are you just wrong, and frankly, a bit dim?
Perhaps I am wrong, when you sign a piece of paper with what you think is your name you might get some extra dna that gives you some sort of telepathic powers and link you to other humans, but nahhhhh.
Well, your the one feeding me, you should know.....
I'm not getting into this debate with you again. The state exists as a power structure. Get over it.