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Okay mate. Sorry if I caused any offence. I am basing this on the fact that sane people don't see things that aren't there.
I can prove that there is no "god" though. All you have to do is pick a form of proof and then we can get cracking.
If you need to confirm your nonbelieve in God, then go ahead. Frankly, I am not interested in your stupid ping pong game, as I have nothing to gain from it whatsoever.
Go ahead, feel intelligent, regard the believers here as stupid, hope it's made your day
but that's just it, i DONT see god........i don't have to, i still believe he exists.........and what this form of proof rubbish? a good analogy would be how do you prove aliens don't exist, you can't, the universe is pretty much infinite.........you could not prove there is no god unless you were he........so i'll leave you with that paradox.
Who says the light isn't off?
I don't know. I am deaf.
Okay. Fair enough. I ain't winning here, mainly because you lot refuse to see sense. You know deep down that you are wrong but won't admit it. That's okay by me and I will leave you to it.
For you the absence of proof is the need for belief and so the less proof the more belief needed. On that logic, no wonder "god" never shows himself.
:rolleyes:
shouldnt non believers be able to speak out,as you god squaders do?
why do religious people forgive me for my sins??...i dont want you to!!
It is far from all religious people who are missionary pains in the ass.
And not all people who have a religion or believe in God are religious.
And what would you call Klintock who's set on disproving God? Isn't he as bad as the born again Christian standing by Leicester Square spreading his word?
if an atheist came up to me in the street with leaflets about how god doesn't exist i'd have a go at him just like the christain one's...i think everyone knows the concept of religion already...everyone has made their choice...it's hardly as though you grow up your whole life not knowing what god is or the concept of god and then by chance meeting someone in leicster square who tells about this magical man called god and you being converted...it's just not like that thats why they annoy me...
You are an intolerant bigot. As bad as the worst Christian or Muslim fundementalist. You are also wrong.
oh interesting...you're basically saying there
god does exist:fact
prove it
Could you kindly explain to me why God believers have the right to state that there is a God as a fact, but unbelievers don't have the right to state the opposite?
Have you noticed the comments I was replying too?
Engage brain for once before posting bullshit if you please...
We will prove God exists right after you prove God does not exist.
And they call us the intolerant ones. :rolleyes:
I'm really sick to death to the tyranny of some believers, whose beliefs must not be questioned under any circumstances (because it would "offend" them :rolleyes: ) but who feel free state those beliefs as fact to the rest of us.
:yes: always has annoyed me and there seems to be a brave few here
example: homosexuality is wrong and immoral...look at passage whatever whatever in book whatever of the bible...see i'm right...all gays should be burned :rolleyes:
I will happily prove/disprove "god" but first I need the type of proof we are looking at measuring against. I can do either so pick a proof.
you're just getting into semantics now...i supose you could prove anything if you had a basis for that proof to be proved on
Well, lets have a basis for proof and go from there. I need to know waht proof you would need so that i can supply it, now don't I?
Telelogical argument
Cosmological Argument
Ontological argument
Disprove those.
I very much doubt you can unless youve got at least a doctorate in Philosophy.
Do you have a doctorate in philosophy?
could you disprove god on a basis that suggests that there is an eternel force that merely oversees human existence rather than interfere...it's mere stipulation of an afterlife is that every human lives their life to the fullest and hasn't cheated on themselves...i doubt you could cos basically above is my belief system....
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Cosmological argument.
Basically from Wiki says everything must have a cause and the first cause must be god. In order for there to be a god on the basis of the argument itself that god must have been caused by something else.
Poof, argument falls down and goes bye bye. If there is no need for a cause for god, there is no need for a cause for the universe, so it doesn't follow that there is a god.
Ontological argument is that god can be proved by reason alone and therefore must exist. I can also formulate arguments that god doesn't exist and so on the merits of the argument itself there is either a god from reason or not a god from reason. This means that reason is higher than god and as he's supposed to be above all then he must not exist.
All of the believers are making out the same thing in reverse.
You've got a few people who are STILL trying to question just how Christian some members are by saying SO IZ IT OK IF EYE KILL A MAN WIV SHORT HAIR, which is tired, old, and I'd refer them to my previous post in this thread.
Then, somewhere in the middle you've got that silly wanker still claiming they can prove God doesn't exist. Well guess what, silly wanker; you'll be the first human being ever to do so. You've gone from saying "Prove to me God exists", and upon hearing "Prove to us that he doesn't" you've gone to "Tell me what proof you want". In other words, you can't think of HOW to prove it - BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE PROVED. Maybe if Aladdin tried to explain this you'd listen.
How about I bring it down to your level again and say, in response to "what proof do you want and I'll give it you"; "what proof can you give?" None. You lose. Grow the fuck up.
Absence of proof means untested theory. Untested theories are not facts.
Besides I asked for the proof that the people who posted would be happy refuting the existence of "god" on. I am quite happy to rubbish as many arguments as they can throw cos it's kind of fun.
do you admit the possibility that god does exist? please don't talk about on what basis, just the possibility of their being a god...
Yes of course, I am an agnostic. I would love to be able to think that there was a great big beard in the sky looking out for everyone. I don't have that luxury. I am absolutely sure that I doubt 100%
Show me proof and I will bow down and worship. In the absence of proof I will treat it like any other confidence scam.
Nice christian abuse you got there. Any proof will do. As I haven't seen a "god" argument yet that I can't smash in bits in seconds I sincerely hope you can cut the mustard.
what about mine a few posts back...you didn't reply to it...