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how do you react to a united nations study that proved a certain ammount of cannabis actualy improved driving skills?
sorry but you're an idiot when it comes to this topic, it's like talking about iraq with lukesh.........like saying it doesn't matter why we went to war with iraq.
the five to ten percent that have problems ...that would have problems with something else no doubt if there were no drugs ...like an alcohol problem no doubt.
the better controlled the drugs the less people have problems.
But if this does infact give the patient better quality of life rather than be in pain blah blah then surely they should allow this woman to use it, not bang her up. (are we still on about the same thing cos I missed a couple of pages)
I'd be delighted, however, to prescribe cannabis based painkillers, even if the side effects were exactly the same.
don't take it personally, it's just frustrating to see yet another person deluded by the blatant propaganda.
lets wash our hands of the situation and have no control whatsoever ...
lets leave the streets awash with all manner of drugs with no quality control ...doesn't sound at all sensible to me but do i care ...no.
i have my quality weed thankyou ...and some very very clean unadulterated moroccan to boot!
so stuff the lot of you.
by the way ...i hope none of you noticed i have been indulging in this wicked substance all evening.
Truth is we're are all gullible when it comes to accepting government lies in whatever shape and form.........and the easiest lie is a half-truth.
that argument no longer holds ...dodgy as it was anyway ...cos now ...all western nations are producing their own in huge ammounts ...so huge that the UK actualy exports top weed now.
soul ...reggae ...grunge punk electronica and dance ...
captain beefheart should be in an assylum but thanks to cannabis ...he gets fame and glory.
what about all those classical composers ...and opium and cannabis remedies?
not to forget the poets and admirals ...
the queen and the greatest fictional detective ever ...linked by opiates ...
funny how back then ...these people were heroes ...
Yeah, that's why i've listed them individually as separate arguments... :rolleyes: . I think you need your eyes checked - glaucoma anyone? Oh wait... :thumb:
You can't grasp the concept, can you?
People smoke soapbar because they want to smoke cannabis...and often, they can't afford or aquire actual proper bud, or real hashish...there's some stoners on here who have the problem. The government has no right to intervene here, especially when their intervention is causing harm to people they're supposedly trying to protect by allowing "soapbar" to flood the UK.
So...prohibition leads to chronic health problems by not allowing people to smoke real cannabis. Get caught growing your own plants, even for personal use, and there's a good chance you're up shit creek without even a joint to smoke. Where's the fucking logic in this? There is none, and your arguments don't hold.
You've also said legalisation would lead to increased use - but the evidence there is from Holland indicates the opposite is true. So you've effectively got no basis for anything you've said.
So what exactly is your argument here Kentish, just out of interest? Do you have any arguments? I'm beginning to wonder, as you don't seem able to be able to address ANY of the points i've put forth...a bit like my MP :rolleyes:.
All your arguments are based on civil liberties.
:thumb: couldn't have said it better myself, why is it that only stoners know what the craic is?????
Where have I denied potential harm?
You've stated you don't support legalisation, recreationally or medicinally; but you can't produce any arguments that hold any weight for prohibiting either.
Do you not agree the points i've made, overall? Do you not see the flaws in government policy and breeches of basic freedoms?
Because it opens your mind...
That and the fact that being a stoner, you get aquainted with law on a more personal level. Stoners see through the shit by which others are blinded.
What a load of smug shite.
However, we don't argue for the legalisation of drink driving because falling asleep at the wheel causes more accidents.
The government does have a duty to prevent harm and promote health.
Should be right up your street then eh?
you can't deny that once everyone smokes dope they see the world through a new perscpective, the intenllectuality of these people is not an issue, kentishs' weak arguements are a classic example of this, any stoner will tell him what the craic is because he knows what dope does, doesn't mean he's smarter than kentish.
Well I wasn't prompted to acknowledge it. Yeah, it has some potential for harm, but that's not a pratical basis for prohibition.
So what's your stance? Do you support legalisation? If you can understand those arguments, then you can obviously understand the current situation of prohibition causing more health problems than it supposedlky seeks to prevent, yes?
Forget silly analogies, and where does this whole "duty to prevent harm and promote health come from"? Read my posts. It's there, as plain as you can get. Prohibition causes more harm than legalisation would - you get rid of the soapbar and provide a clean supply of hash & grass...less health problem for smokers as a result, and a sizeable tax revenue. There's no evidence to suggest smoking will increase - the opposite is true. I've said this again and again, why don't you get it? It's pure fucking logic!
Yes Kentish is chatting shit, but it does not automatically follow that dope smokers know what they're talking about. Stoner culture is renowned for bullshit. "Yeah maaaaan its only a herb" etc.
The debate is too polarised IMO. On one side you have the "cannabis will save the world" hippy crap and on the other you have the "cannabis will send you crazy" reactionary crap.
aye thats cos people aren't actually looking at the logistics of the situation, too busy trying to promote their opinions without looking at it sensibly, yes it's no panacea but kentishs is way way way off also, i think the right answers to the problem are here to be seen in this thread but i'm not typing it out cos i'll just get a negative reaction from someone so i'll sit back and let you all find it out aswell
You may as well type it out, try and educate these people.