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Nothing to live for anymore

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    Reality? Life itself? I'm not certain.
    search and find out ...it's usualy very near the surface and in fact ...quite obvious if you don't look to far.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    and the only person in the world with the answers is you ...you know why this is the case... what are you afraid of?
    I'm scared of having to do anything, that's what it is. I've lived in a self-imposed bubble for much of my life and I don't know how to get out of that bubble. I need to get a job, I need to apply for university, I need to make some friends, I need to find a purpose in life again... but this bubble is so hard to burst.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    I'm scared of having to do anything, that's what it is. I've lived in a self-imposed bubble for much of my life and I don't know how to get out of that bubble. I need to get a job, I need to apply for university, I need to make some friends, I need to find a purpose in life again... but this bubble is so hard to burst.
    if the bubble is self imposed then take a long hard look at how and why you built it.
    there is a good chance that you wern't actualy the architect of the bubble ...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    if the bubble is self imposed then take a long hard look at how and why you built it. there is a good chance that you wern't actualy the architect of the bubble...
    I'd say that it was. It's been there since I was a child. I hardly ever spoke to anyone, I kept myself to myself. I didn't have to do anything for myself. I've been in this sort of pattern for years. When the reality hit me that college was coming to an end and I'd have to start working, I got very depressed. For a while, it seemed the bubble was bursting. But now I seem to be trying to sub-consciously retreat into this bubble. But I really don't want to. I can't live like this! :crying:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    I'd say that it was. It's been there since I was a child. I hardly ever spoke to anyone, I kept myself to myself. I didn't have to do anything for myself. I've been in this sort of pattern for years. When the reality hit me that college was coming to an end and I'd have to start working, I got very depressed. For a while, it seemed the bubble was bursting. But now I seem to be trying to sub-consciously retreat into this bubble. But I really don't want to. I can't live like this! :crying:
    the reality is you can live like this ...especialy if those around you and the environment is suitable.
    until that environment can no longer sustain you for some reason.
    it will be a very troubled and sad life if you continue to wallow in it for as long as possible ...your taking the comfortable root at the moment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    it will be a very troubled and sad life if you continue to wallow in it for as long as possible ...your taking the comfortable root at the moment.
    I'm trying to break out of this route. But it's so hard. For example, I've decided to go for a visit to London later this week just to stick two fingers up to depression and to see a very special friend of mine. In the meantime, I'm trying to put my CV together to send out to a few firms. I'm trying to find some courses so I can go to university. I'd like to learn and being in the same environment all day every day is driving me insane. But I'm absolutely terrified of life outside of the bubble.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    But I'm absolutely terrified of life outside of the bubble.
    yes i think we know that.
    but only you realy know why.
    why is it so difficult to pop?
    inside are the answers ...a good councilor would get you to relate how that bubble came to be and why it's so comfortable or so all encompassing ...you have the key.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    why is it so difficult to pop?
    inside are the answers ...a good councilor would get you to relate how that bubble came to be and why it's so comfortable or so all encompassing ...you have the key.
    Because I suppose life has been very comfortable inside that bubble and now that I've got to leave it, I don't know what to do.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    Because I suppose life has been very comfortable inside that bubble and now that I've got to leave it, I don't know what to do.
    so somewhere in the making and building of you as a person ...something wasn't done ...wasn't provided by way of tools to deal with life?
    you don't seem to have even the basic skills needed to apply for a job.
    your social skills haven't been developed.
    why?
    what went wrong?
    what was happening to you when you should have been developing ...?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    so somewhere in the making and building of you as a person ...something wasn't done ...wasn't provided by way of tools to deal with life? you don't seem to have even the basic skills needed to apply for a job. your social skills haven't been developed. why? what went wrong? what was happening to you when you should have been developing ...?
    Maybe it's to do with me never talking to people. When I was a child, I used to remember everyone talking to one another. I went to a small school. I was the only one who hardly spoke to anyone else. I got on with my work quietly, never said a word. At playtimes, when everyone else was playing, I'd be sitting somewhere all alone, bored and hating myself. I never talked or socialised when I was younger. I think the effects are on show now. :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    there has to be a reason.
    what was your home life like?
    what kind of people make up your family?
    what don't they do?
    are they quiet people?
    depressed people?
    exciting daring people?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My home life was secure, two parents, married for 23 years now, very loving, they never argue about anything. One brother and sister. My brother and sister are very sociable, kind people, the total opposite of me. My dad's pretty shy, my mum is too. But I don't think my family are to blame for me being a freak.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i have to go to my bed now ...
    have you ever had any role models?
    heroes?
    if so ...why were they?
    if not ...why not?
    what intriqued puzzled fascinated you as a kid?
    what does now?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    have you ever had any role models? heroes?
    if not ...why not?
    what intriqued puzzled fascinated you as a kid?
    what does now?
    No role models, no heroes, never have had any. I don't really remember what fascinated me as a child. :crying:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    NO, you're not looking, you're trying to avoid looking.

    The problem goes back a very long way, probably further than your accessible memory can access. Your behaviour is programmed by your environment when you were a child, and your behaviour now reacts to the memories of this programming.

    Later experience reinforces the behaviour learned when young.

    Was your mum happy? Was your dad happy? Were they lonely? Argumentative? Did they shout at you if you cried? Did they ignore your cries of pain? Did someone close in the family die? Did your family move?

    It doesn't have to be much, just enough.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    No role models, no heroes, never have had any. I don't really remember what fascinated me as a child. :crying:
    somewhere in there star ...is a personality.
    if not ...you better start building one.
    it's YOU ...who has the key.
    but you don't seem to have much idea of WHO you are.

    my fear is ...your comfort and reliance will be the death of you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Was your mum happy? Was your dad happy? Were they lonely? Argumentative? Did they shout at you if you cried? Did they ignore your cries of pain? Did someone close in the family die? Did your family move?
    My parents are happy, they always have been. But they keep things between themselves. When I cried, I went and hid in my room, no one ever came upstairs to check. No one in the family died when I was child, and they didn't move.

    MORROCAN ROLL: "my fear is ...your comfort and reliance will be the death of you."
    I wish I was dead, Rolly.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We've been through this: you don't.

    You probably can't remember what it was that caused you to retreat into yourself, but in your childhood, probably early childhood, you have learned that it is better and safer to be in the bubble than out of it. Later life has continued to prove this to you, though as much as anything this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Nobody coming to check on you is one thing, but even that is probably not it. You probably don't remember it in your memory, but you DO remember it in how you behave now.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Nobody coming to check on you is one thing, but even that is probably not it. You probably don't remember it in your memory, but you DO remember it in how you behave now.
    I think it might be best if I go to bed now. Maybe I can get some sleep and try to make sense of my head. I don't think I can carry on with my life if this is all I have.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    I don't think I can carry on with my life if this is all I have.

    and if you continue like this you wont have anything. You gotta start trying more. simple as :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Richeh
    and if you continue like this you wont have anything. You gotta start trying more. simple as
    It's true, I can't avoid it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's only food for thought, and not for bad thought either. Though the bad thoughts have to be thought in order to beat them.

    The only way to get out of the bubble is to realise that whatever the danger was is not there now, and that the only thing keeping you there is your own mind, your own memories.

    Any more news for the therapy?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    It's true, I can't avoid it.

    Of course you can avoid it. Your just not trying. PMA = positive mental attitude, whereever their is a negative think of a positive, you'll be surrpised how much it can actually work.

    What i see is so many people on this site genuily trying to help you, but every time someone makes a suggestion or gives you advice you simply dont accept it, not really. Coming on here isnt going to help you when it comes to the real world you just have to get out their and do it
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    The only way to get out of the bubble is to realise that whatever the danger was is not there now, and that the only thing keeping you there is your own mind, your own memories.

    I think he's actually convinced himself deep in his mind so much that nothing anyone says on here is actually going to make a physical difference.

    You have so much negative thinking going on inside your head its holding you prisoner. Kermit's right with what he says above.

    I know all about negativety being that i myself am a very negative person, actually i take tha tback i used to be very negative but i've managed to change that side of me quite a bit,anyone who chats with me on msn would tell you that.You've honestly got to start thinking more positively and start taking cotrol of your life, and your depression.

    I think everyone has done as much as they can to help you SG its time for you to act now on your own for yourself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    A phone number for what exactly?

    off the site for Careers Wales.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    I don't know what you mean. I'm barely in touch with reality. I'd like to apply for university for instance but I can't do it as I don't have a credit card or a cheque account. I don't know why I'm so incapable, Rolly.

    WTF?! WHY DO YOU NEED A CREDIT CARD OR CHEQUE ACCOUNT FOR UNI??

    and for the record you could easily get a cheque book.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Take a step back and look at yourself. Your whole life is ahead of you. The obstacles you are facing you can overcome. It is difficult, but you can get through it. There are many examples of people on here who were once like yourself and they've got through it. Using myself as an example I've had numerous moments of "I've had enough" etc and numerous people have told me the same thing numerous times and its taken me such a long time for it to sink in. Sometimes it doesn't quite still. But I now understand that it's all very well blaming other people or circumstance but the only person who's going to sort it out is you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    RICHEH: I realise people are trying to help me. But I have never been able to accept help before. Now I'm having to, I just don't know how to do that. You talk so much about positive thinking, yet I've no idea how to do that. How on earth do you start thinking positively after a lifetime of thinking negatively?

    QUEENMAB_ROO: The number for Careers Wales is not one I'll be needing. Services like that appear to be only for ultra-confident people who know exactly what direction they want their careers to go into. Just looking at the website for that place intimidates me. As for university, what I meant was I need a credit card to be able to apply online for university.

    GIRL_GUNNER: I blame only myself for my problems. I am entirely to blame.

    * On another note, people who barely know me on MSN are always telling me that I am perfectly capable of being able of getting a job. They tell me it's the truth. Yet, I honestly don't understand how they see this. What is it in me that they see and I don't? :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    I mean, honestly, people are trying to help you. You're not doing anything, stop whining, start doing something.
    What I did today was put together my CV. I'd like to start sending them out to a few firms in the next few days.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    SG career places are their to help everyone who needs to find work etc, not just for anyone who's super confident.
    I'd like to start sending them out to a few firms in the next few days.

    2moro's goal is to have them all sent out, or as many as possible. Not a few days, 2moro!
    You talk so much about positive thinking, yet I've no idea how to do that. How on earth do you start thinking positively after a lifetime of thinking negatively?

    I'll be honest with you SG, i couldnt have become more confident were it not for a small ( well 3, Rachie004 helped me a great deal ) group of people i met online, who when i ffelt down or negative showed me the error of my ways and set me on the right path. I'm a very shy person by nature and coupling that with being negative well you can imagine what that is like but with the help of others i have become more positive.

    You say you dont know how to accept the help that is being offered, isnt it obvios, ashard as it may seem you take it all in, break it down into small goals to reach and start working towards then. It is simple to do you just have to get the ball rolling.

    Stop making excuses now and start acting.
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