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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    True. And if cannabis was legalised, then people might be more inclined to behave responsibly. In the same way that most pubs and off licences won't serve under 18's and most people won't drink and drive.


    Pubs and off licences don't serve under 18s because of the law, not because of some ethereal moral obligation. The same applies to drink-driving.

    Don't bring my mother into anything, however you mean it.


    Spliffie: As I understood it driving under the influence of drugs isn't illegal, though I may have misunderstood articles read, simply being under the influence was what allowed the drivers to be arrested.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Pubs and off licences don't serve under 18s because of the law, not because of some ethereal moral obligation. The same applies to drink-driving.

    Which is entirely my point.
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Don't bring my mother into anything, however you mean it.

    Ooooh, touchy.

    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Spliffie: As I understood it driving under the influence of drugs isn't illegal, though I may have misunderstood articles read, simply being under the influence was what allowed the drivers to be arrested.

    You have misunderstood.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Which is entirely my point.

    You posted as if they did it out of some form of moral responsibility not because of the law.
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Ooooh, touchy.

    Don't do it. It's just not on.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    You posted as if they did it out of some form of moral responsibility not because of the law.

    Fuck me, this is like pulling teeth.
    If drugs were legalised, then it would force people to be more responsible.
    Geddit?
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Don't do it. It's just not on.

    Get a grip ferchrissakes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Fuck me, this is like pulling teeth.
    If drugs were legalised, then it would force people to be more responsible.
    Geddit?

    No it wouldn't, not unless there were corresponding laws forcing them to be more responsible. Legalising the drug does not provide a given for a law of responsibility does it?

    There were no laws about drink driving before there were cars, these laws were brought in later as applications arrose.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    A free for all market, is exactly what we have now. Legalisation would require some form of legal controls, 'cos at the moment there are none.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    A free for all market, is exactly what we have now. Legalisation would require some form of legal controls, 'cos at the moment there are none.

    exactly my point, thank you for agreeing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    I'm not swayed by the arguments for legalisation.

    Nicely backtracked. :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    No it wouldn't, not unless there were corresponding laws forcing them to be more responsible. Legalising the drug does not provide a given for a law of responsibility does it?

    There were no laws about drink driving before there were cars, these laws were brought in later as applications arrose.

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry :rolleyes:

    You legalise the drug for adult use and ensure you've got the laws sorted out to ensure people ain't driving on it etc much like alcohol. No doubt the Dutch have that all sorted.

    It's plain fucking obvious you don't let people drive after taking a bong hit, it goes without saying.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Spliffie
    It's plain fucking obvious you don't let people drive after taking a bong hit, it goes without saying.

    Clearly not, it didn't go without saying at the turn of the last century, when cars were only just introduced, that you didn't let people drink and drive, did it?
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Nicely backtracked


    Backtracked how exactly? The laws need to be carefully planned, doesn't mean I agree with legalisation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Backtracked how exactly?


    Well you just agreed with me that legalisation is a good idea.
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    The laws need to be carefully planned, doesn't mean I agree with legalisation.

    Eh? This seems to be a contradictory statement. Could you expand?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Well you just agreed with me that legalisation is a good idea.

    Trust me this was not my intention, I'm sorry if I misled you.
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Eh? This seems to be a contradictory statement. Could you expand?

    I don't agree with legalisation. But if it were on the cards I would insist on appropriate laws for control.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Trust me this was not my intention, I'm sorry if I misled you.
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    A free for all market, is exactly what we have now. Legalisation would require some form of legal controls, 'cos at the moment there are none.


    exactly my point, thank you for agreeing.

    Seems like you're supporting legalisation there. Which is it?

    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    I don't agree with legalisation. But if it were on the cards I would insist on appropriate laws for control.

    So you think the current situation is a good idea? A totally unregulated market?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Trust me this was not my intention, I'm sorry if I misled you.



    I don't agree with legalisation. But if it were on the cards I would insist on appropriate laws for control.

    OK, so say the appropriate laws were put in place (no driving etc, everything that's been covered already) why would you still not agree with the legalisation?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Seems like you're supporting legalisation there. Which is it?
    I do not. As I said, it was not my intention and I'm sorry if I inadvertantly misled you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85 I do not. As I said, it was not my intention and I'm sorry if I inadvertantly misled you.

    So you support an unregulated black market run by gangsters then?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Spliffie
    OK, so say the appropriate laws were put in place (no driving etc, everything that's been covered already) why would you still not agree with the legalisation?

    I do not agree, for the same reasons I disapprove of smoking.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    I do not agree, for the same reasons I disapprove of smoking.

    *lights up roll up*

    So would you ban tobacco as well?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    *lights up roll up*

    So would you ban tobacco as well?

    That would be extremly difficult, I would like to ban smoking in all public spaces.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    So you support an unregulated black market run by gangsters then?

    Well do you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    So you support an unregulated black market run by gangsters then?

    The market is supported by criminals isn't it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    The market is supported by criminals isn't it?

    I'm asking you, if you think the current situation, which is a totally unregulated market run by gangsters, is a good idea.
    Yes or no?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    I do not agree, for the same reasons I disapprove of smoking.

    So because you disapprove of something, others shouldn't be allowed do it? If some mad bastard placed a ban on masturbation, would you be happy?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Spliffie
    So because you disapprove of something, others shouldn't be allowed do it? If some mad bastard placed a ban on masturbation, would you be happy?

    Actually, I don't masturbate, so it wouldn't affect me. I am not the only person who doesn't like having to breathe someone elses smoke when I'm out and about either.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    I'm asking you, if you think the current situation, which is a totally unregulated market run by gangsters, is a good idea.
    Yes or no?

    There wouldn't be a market if people weren't breaking the law would there?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    There wouldn't be a market if people weren't breaking the law would there?

    Eh? :confused::confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Eh? :confused::confused:

    If people didn't insist on buying drugs that are illegal there wouldn't really be a market that needed regulating would there?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    If people didn't insist on buying drugs that are illegal there wouldn't really be a market that needed regulating would there?

    You might as well wish for the moon on a stick. There will always be a market for drugs. So doesn't it make more sense to regualate and control it properly?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Actually, I don't masturbate, so it wouldn't affect me. I am not the only person who doesn't like having to breathe someone elses smoke when I'm out and about either.

    Oh right I thought you were male until i checked yer profile. When did i mention smoking lol. If someone's smoking dope in a licensed cannabis cafe or in their own home then you're not going to have to breathe someone else's smoke are you? In fact, it's not going to have any effect on you whatsoever.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Actually, I don't masturbate

    You're either lying or very weird.
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