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I can understand people bringing it in for themselves, the gangs that bring it in and sell it for a profit are the major problem.
Simple.
Same thing happened with cannabis, true. But a hell of a lot more people drink than they to take cannabis.
All i said was it pisses me off when people smoke it in public, it stinks, especially when people smoke it on public transport or in public buildings.
the war against drugs has been going on for over thirty years ...with the result that more acres than ever before across the world grow coke ...dope ...opium. with the result that the uk now grows so much top quality weed that we are now a major exporter ...while you dumb fucks are trying to stop it coming in ...it's actualy going out.
the war on drugs has failed misserably. it's only sucsess being to hand 10 billion quid a year to villains in the uk alone.
watch out everyone ...a new super hero called whowhere is here to enforce law and order ...wearing his underpants over his fucking head!
by the way ...the victorian studies are to this day the most respected ...highly proffesional and still up to date with the last hundred years research.
i'm begining to think that a certain kind of person hides from reality by becoming a copper ...a uniform a pair of big boots and a little bit of power over other people ...good way of hiding your ignorance me thinks.
you get out there mate and bash the druggys with your big stick ...oh ...not forgetting your views on homelessness ...kick 'em in the shop doorways while they're down ...you'll go far i'm sure.
but ...the drugs that have been here in abundance for the last three hundred years WON'T ...be going away. what a waste of your time aye.
it might well give you an insight about the kinds of people involved in the movement, production and distribution of cannabis.
it's not an intelectualy demanding book.
the book is ...MR NICE ...an autobiography. by Howard Marks.
published by vintage 1998.
i'm sure you'll be able to hate mr marks with a vengance. it may give you a little glimpse of truth regarding a topic you appear to know absolutely nothing about. it will i'm sure give you an insight into the people ...the human beings involved.
I agree that people shouldn't smoke on public transport. But that applies to cigarettes as well as weed. Someone walking down the road with a spliff or chilling in the park having a smoke doesn't do any harm though.
Here's my, slightly more ballsy proposal:
Possession with intent to supply/ Dealing : 10 years minimum.
Use in public : 6 months
Sutable amount in home /medicinal with permission of a doctor(over 18) : 100% legal
Use in home (under 18) : 3 months
I'd personally have a nation of faggers than space cadets.
Your're better off smoking banana skins
but lets just keep things the way they are instead of the government having any kind of control over the situation we'll leave it to razor rick and his mates to live the high life. tax free high life at that.
i don't know why but people seem to assume that keeping it illegal or upping the penalties will somehow make it go away or make it safer.
up the penalties enough and i can assure you the world will become more violent ...much more violent. more dead coppers etc.
we are talking billions of quids here.
and who the fuck do any of you think you are ...telling me i cannot grow a certain herb on my windowsill along with my ginger and chillies and use it as i see fit? yes realy!
I don't think completely legalising it would entirely solve the problem and I think regulating it would be harder than Alcohol and Tobacco.
What we need is proper research into the effects. If it were safe and doesn't cause problems I'd support it's legalisation but tell that to the dealers. Those are the people we as a nation need to target in the pocket more than anything else. As long as there are panda-eyed dependants outside inner city comprehensives I will never support 100% decrimilisation, it's not worth it.
The only reason alcohol and tobacco are legal is because we've been drunk and smoking for hundreds of years.
funny ...i've smoked for 36 years now. my father smoked in egypt in the 1940,s when he was in charge of motor torpedo boats in and around the suez canal. my grandfathers generation in the 1930's were into the stuff real big time ...very fashionable, especialy in america. his father in victorian england would have been buying cannabis legaly along with opium tincture.
it's been a stoned world like forever!
Grow your own by all means, smoke the odd spliff for pain relief or whatever just don't even consider selling it.
I'm not against it, but I am against creating social pressures where they are not warrented.
the truth is ...it won't go away. millions of people from all walks of life are and will continue to use it. giving crime a donation of billions of untaxed pounds cannot be a sensible way to aproach this.
Seeing as I can't tell from a distance the difference between a joint and a fag I'd probably leave him alone.
If he walked up to me and blew it in my face then it would be different.
Rolly, I'm "fucking ignorant" and hate drugs because I'm seeing with my own eyes what a shit hole this country is becoming because of them.
Nearly every crime in every major city can be attributed to them. I've had friends and work colleagues throw their lives away for the sake of getting high.
I went out a few months ago, we stopped by one of their houses, she and her mates were all fucking stoners. One guy was just sat on the couch babbling to himself. And this makes us a great country? A guy, who could barely control his own bladder, let alone his ability to stop drool running down his mouth is the future of this country?
This is what it's like to be free to smoke what we want? Pull the other one. Now you want to make the damn things legal? You think that the gangs will go, that turf wars will be a thing of the past just because it is legal to sell and use them? Or do you suggest government controlled "outlets", fat lot of good that would do, it would just create a new tax and smugglers would be out getting it on the cheap from France.
Legalising it would make the problems worse, not better. We've only just managed to get the message across that drinking and driving is a bad thing to do, now we'll have to start the whole thing over with drugs and driving. "Excuse me sir, have you been popping E's tonight?"
If you legalise drugs, then the drug lords win. They already believe they have more power than the rest of us, making their "trade" legal would just make them believe they are Gods. Look at South America, Colombia in particular. The government there turn a blind eye for a short space of time, the next thing they know they are at war.
coppers to the extent that the chief constable of manchester refuses to do random drug checks on his force becuase cannabis can be traced for up to two months ...where class A's are only for about 24hrs? he stated quite sensibly that he would rather his cops smoke a weed than resort to class A's to avoid a positive result.
you know some very strange and miserable wrecks of people mate ...or did you make that bit up?
This makes absolutely no sense at all.
What you been smoking?
Humans have been using cannabis for thousands of years.
What was your point again?
Have you actually read anything on this thread? :rolleyes: