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And the State would still pay for legal drug use- the crime and the detox wouldn't magically disappear with legal drugs, unless the State paid for the drugs for those who couldn't afford them. Lost work days (part of the huge cost of illegal drug use) would still be lost, regardless of supplier.
Legalising drugs is little more than a change of supplier- removing the law will not solve the drug problems.
You miss the point. The criminality would be far less, as would the health problems.
lets just carry on with things the way they are then should we?
However, I don't think that the arguments for legalisation are strong enough to warrant it, and I don't think that legalisation would solve the societal problems surrounding drugs. Just because the state is the provider doesn't mean that crime to feed habits would go down, unless the state pays for people to be addicts, and I think that legalisation will only encourage people to try drugs, because the illegality and the danger will be removed.
Instead of legalising the drugs, perhaps sorting out the issues causing people to take drugs would be a better idea. I'm not meaning things like an e on a Saturday night, I'm meaning the hard-core drugs- happy people simply do not take them. Solving that would be a better idea than making it easier than it already is to get drugs.
people tend to forget or just don't realize that it was both legal and fashionable.
in victorian times virtualy all the british admiralty were opium addicts and almost half the british cabinet.
when heroin was legaly prescribed in the 60's ...even though many famous people such as mick jagger and jimmi hendrix were taking their prescriptions to a pharmacy in chelsea ...it was looked upon by your average dope smoker ...illegal ...and your average amphetamine user ...prescribed legaly ...as medication. these people wern't going out to 'score' ...they were getting their medication ...no rock n roll glamour associated with it at all.
there isn't a 'problem' as such, that your going to be able to get to the root of and solve and therefore make drugs go away ...since the dawn of time , every society has had it's drugs and mostly these substances have been enjoyed with few problems. making it criminal makes it attractive in a rebelious way.
people feel like robin hood romantic outlaws simply because they know in their hearts they are hurting no one ...but the sherrif is always on their case.
how on earth people think they can rid the world of mans desire for altered states of consiousness is beyond me.
stop glamourising it and stop funding crime and terrorism like never before in history ...thats where societies priorities should lay.
it isn't going to go away ...ever.
funny how valium and viagra and anti depressants can be had by the buket full don't you think? why is that ...is viagra life saving?
do anti depressants make you feel better ...does valium help you relax ...chill out ...cope better? hypocricy ?
The same applies to amphetamine and MDMA to, both are very cheap to make.
the cost is a none argument.
I'm really not sure where I stand on this anymore, the pro-legalisation arguments are quite convincing, and are valid. I'm just not sure if they're quite strong enough to warrant the change in the law though.
it's a simple thing to call for control through legalisation but to figure out the best ways to implement such radical changes is quite daunting.
i believe they should start by fully legalising cannabis. the canadian approach has been fuck it ...stop bothering people about cannabis ...if you want to grow it smoke it buy or sell it just get on with it.
it has had a remarkable outcome. cannabis growing and exporting has becomes canadas biggest business. it outstrips traditional agriculture in exports. it turns over more money than forrestry and engineering. it has become the countrys biggest earner!
what has amazed everyone is there isn't a drug cartel in sight.
the stuff is being grown by ordinary families. small holders and farmers who have thousands of acres and huge buildings for indoor growing. the country hasn't gone to pot.
their next door nieghbours ...the yanks ...have threatened to close the border ...threatened to implement a trade embargo ...canadas response OH FUCK OFF!
Well, it has really;)
Cannabis should be legal, I've felt that for a long time, it's just when the discussion turns to the harder stuff that I am less certain.
I can see the benefits of legalisation, but I think it will cause problems of its own if it happens. My housemate isn't alone in admitting that they'd have more than dabbled with speed if the law hadn't created supply problems.
Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on Khat/Qat.
The reason I ask is that I don't know anybody who has tried it, yet it is currently legal, do you think making it illegal will drive it into the arms of dealers or give it the street cred that will make it attractive to non-users.
To be honest, I've never seen it sold anywhere.
So's alot of things and they'r shite.