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in fact we're 1st
You exaggerate more than the Sun + D. Mail who are capable of conveying the truth(when it suits them)
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As i said, in EU, in fact we're 1st
Refugee Council = taxpayer funded quango of self-serving clowns pushing selective agenda. Ignore
As to what the rest of the world does, i couldn't give a flying one, it's UK's 'soft touch' statuus that has this motley crew in Calais, Roma Gypsies, HIV+ Africans? Canada can have them
What do you base your assertion on then? The Daily fucking Mail? :rolleyes:
10,000 asylum seekers going to Luxembourg would have a greater impact than 100,000 asylum seekers going to Britain. The absolute number no. 1 position is next to meaningless.
Only those who have an anti-immigration agenda to push like to quote this not very significant statistic as a back up.
The Left can't stand the Mail , it's a publishing sucess and performs a useful role in putting issues in the public eye that the po-faced broadsheets have no stomach for.
I bet a lot of the hatred is that a lot of young Left are m/c and it's their parents paper- how can you read that fash rag mummy?
Ignore it
Back up your claims.
P.S.
wrong on all 3 assumptions about me.
Have either of you (solo and giantno1) written to your MP regarding what you see as the immigration problem?
And as I recall, the Mail isnt actually the success that it would make out, hasnt it lost market share over the last few years?
If british people arent willing to make themselves competitive, the jobs should go to those who are..
We did massive damage to the world by trying to force our way into foreign markets, into foreign job sectors..Now the situation is reversed, with immigrants coming here to work, we are all up in arms about it..waaahhhhhh the britons should have the jobs..waahhhh all the companies are moving to india..
We made this bed, we lie in it.
*sigh*
Significant in that large numbers are by-passing EU to get to UK. Sangatte may have closed but still they come.
NuLab wants all this but has to play the Asylum ogre to appease taxpayers , all of course Daily Mai readersl
Yes, I've written to that blairite waste of political space
Bahahahahahahahahahaha
Considering there are so many Brits too damn lazy to get a job anyway... I mean a lot of doley people who won't get off their arse (yeah there are acceptions, areas scarce with jobs ect) or who're like "nuuu, I don't want this job, it isn't my perfect career" in my opinion are a bigger drain and waste of space. A job is a job at the end of the day.
Or maybe British people feel threatened?
From that link:
How many times do we have to go through this? That Britain receives the highest number is not relevant when it comes to asserting the impact they'll have. What counts is the proportion of asylum seekers arriving to the indigenous population.
And on that we were 8th in the EU the last time I looked.
You can parrot your stat for ever.
Impact on a state is not usefully measured by bean-counting
Australia has a small population, it does not allow it's asylum seekers to Impact on it's affairs as it sticks them in campswithin its large landmass. The impact for every 1,000 residents in Oz is quite different to that in UK where so-called asylum seekers help themselves to all and physically inhabit the same space as native Brits.
That impact is not wanted by UK generally, that fact is not missed by the tabloids
Not with the numbers we're getting, which despite all the crying and raving the racist press might utter, it's next to fuck all for a country with 60,000,000 people.
If we were in Luxembourg, pop. 450,000, then we could talk about the impact 100,000 asylum seekers might have. But we're not. We're in a country with 130 times larger population than Luxembourg. And therefore the impact of 100,000 asylum seekers is 130 times greater on the pocket of every Luxembourg taxpayer than it is on the British taxpayer.
Understand now?
How? what damage are you referring to?
And Alladin, you're proportion statistics may be all well and good to someone living in fucking Aberdeen, for example, but I live in London where 90% of the immigrants fucking are. So if you're going to come up with some bullshit proportionate statistics then how about you come up with some for London's boroughs, the most effected by immigration in the UK, specifically and not how many assylum seekers are admitted per 1000 of the population in the whole of the UK. As far as I'm concerned, London is a country of its own.
I think Aladdin is a crofter on the Isle of Skye, maybe that's why he believes the statement above. I think it's less credible than 'asylum seekers roasted Royal corgis on spit outside Buck House'
Lies, damned lies and statistics
Last time I looked, Wimbledon (Merton) was part of London - inspite of Koppell's attempt to move it to Milton Keynes (
As that is where Aladdin lives, I would suspect that his views are grounded on his own personal experience of London, which kind of negates your argument.
BTW It isn't just the taxpayers of London who are affected as we all pay a price for assisting our fellow humans through immigration. Therefore the cost is borne by the whole population, which is the point Aladdin is trying to make. If 100,000 people turned up tomorrow in the UK it would less of an effect than if they arrived in a smaller state (like Luxemborg).
When you take our population into consideration we are better placed to take immigrants than many of our European neigbour and so should take a "fair share". This doesn't mean base number of applicants but a proportionate amount. We, as Aladdin has said, are 8th in Europe on this basis...
But I fail to see why this would concern me in any shape or form, I've always found that the people who look like immigrants are quite nice, smile when you walk past them in the street, are quiet etc.
London is not 'flooded' with immigrants at all, its always been a very mixed place, because it is and was a port. And ALL port cities are mixed. But this is what makes London one of the great cities of the world, the mix. The fact that you can go to camden, or Holland Park or Ealing or Shepards Bush or Hackney or where ever and they are ALL very different.
I live in London too. And I think its great that its such a multicultural place. Tough shit if you're too scared of people to enjoy it.
I certainly would much rather live next to a family of asylum seekers than Daily Mail-reading middle Englander bigots.
usually said by someone who won't be placed in that situation.
I know of Asylum hostels in suburban areas around which there are thefts, noise - working on cars in the street, a general lowering of the tone of the area adding nothing whatsoever to the lives of existing residents.
As for Brixton on the few occasions I've alighted at that tube, I think in the noise + chaos, who in their right mind would want to live here?
Absolute rubbish.
There are thefts and noise everywhere. To blame it soley on asylum seekers is idiotic.
Personally I love Brixton. Its lively, vibrant and has a great community. You sound like the sort of person who actually doesn't like other people very much. Brixton wouldn't want you.