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I didn't mean 'big deal' in that murder is Ok, I meant that it's no big hooha that an immigrant did it. Of course you had to twist it, right? :rolleyes:
Giant, you have to understand, anything and everything is influenced by blacks these days, football, music, justice, government, as far as a lot of liberals are concerned, If a black is involved, it will be of black origin.
Im not kidding either, the other day I had a uni student trying to claim to me that Rugby was invented and is a big part of black culture. I told him the story about William Webb Ellis and he tried to give me some story bout how blacks in africa played it over 500 years ago!!
And there's me thinking that it was right-wing reactionaries.
You complain about how "immigrants" are coming to our country, taking away our way of life. Yet you seem to gloss over the reasons why we have such a high standard of living.
In part this is because we went to their countries, changed their way of life and milked their countries of as much filthy lucre as we could get our hands on.
Now we are wealthy enough to be in a position to help these people out, and you want to deny them. Shame on you.
Really, rather than ask why we should help these people, perhaps you'd like to say why we shouldn't...
What possible difference does it make to the music that you like (what ever that maybe) if its background is black, white, yellow, blue...?
If you go to a club and find the DJ was black would you walk out? Or maybe if some black people were enjoying the music too?
No I don't immigranst are net contributors to the economy, nothing to do with the tax system.
You would make yourself worse off to reduce immigration, why?
Well said that man!
Aside from that, if the govt had nothing to do with immigration then if a similar pattern were to continue as has occured over the last 50 years then immigrants will continue to be net contrbutors to the economy.
this is especially related to the fatc that immigrants and those of immigrant origin in the last 50 years are far more likely to be entrepreneurs so its not just about cheap labour etc.
Hell no! Carl Cox is a class DJ, I'm not walking out on one of his sets! As to the colour of music, I think that some blue music is a good idea. I used to listen to HipHop and R&B because I liked it. I no longer do not because its associated with black people but simply because I dont like it any more (again, dont read into it).
Trance and House are euphoric, they feed the soul. They're types of music that make you feel like you can fly to pluto and back through the beautiful uplifting synth they project. HipHop and R&B dont do shit. They're just people singing about ex-relationships and how they'll kill their enemies if they bad-mouth them. What good does that do anyone? That said, there are exceptions. I dont mind N.E.R.D. Most of the shit they sing about is decent. But people like Sean Paul (who can only sing about himself), DMX, 50 Cent, Ja Rule. Total Pratts.
Why should they have to contribute to Britain? Haven't they done so already - you can rest assured that Britain probably has a huge part to play in why their "Home" country is in a mess now...?
But assuming that you want them to contribute - in what form would this take?
Just as a number of "brits" abuse the system. Should we kick these people out?
Its not pointless at all. Terming everyday things 'black' is pointless, but not music, not at all. There is black music, white music, indian music. Everything else is identified by culture/nation, i.e. Food, traditions, laws. So why the hell not music?
And i aint being racist, Dr. Dre says all the time that "white rap" is f*cking shit. Is that being racist? I dont think so.
The reason I would suggest labeling music as 'black' or whatever is pointless is because, and this is especialy true with Western music, there are far more influences than just black or white or whatever.
Im sorry but I really dont see where I have made any views that are even close to racism, I am a member of 7-8 political debates and this is my first warning. Admittidly,it seems like this siteis by far the most left wing of them all, but I dont believe I have said anything that comes close to 'racism'.
thanks
I was saying it was over a general consensus of the posters compared to other boards that I am on.
Though I realise this site is aimed at younger people so we will get a lot of 'student politics'
also can you please tell me where I quoted 'far left commies'????
You should visit urban75.com then...
But perhaps I was over stating the mark somewhat, I just dont really think many people on here would see themselves as left wing, liberal maybe but that is quite different.
that site really is full of fuck ups, opened my eyes.
Immigration is not going away, instead of making occupations more attractive to the UK workforce, ie teaching, nursing it's easier to draw in Immigrants from 3rd world counties who can ill-afford their loss.
Asylum Immigration has already happend on a big scale,London is multi-ethnic, a better place for it, i wouldn't think so, i've no interest in many of the ppl here as they would have none in me (am I really going to get chatting to that Afghani? woman in the full-on burkha, i don't think so)
As for the economics, that CBI £2.5bn net gain is for legal and often high-skill Immigrants from EU/US etc. Nothing to do with the many Asylum Immigrants I see in the Black Economy and are probably on benefits.
There is no reason for the UK to absorb many if any Asylum Immigrants , we are a long way from places in conflict and I don't think they see us as a haven of civil-liberties, more a place from which deportation is unlikely. The '51 convention is inappropriate to modern times and should be revised, why should UK be held to ransom by anyone who rolls up?
By saying that just because we are not close to war zones or those of strife they dont effect us is just plain stupid. Are you suggesting that if a major war broke out we shouldnt do anything till it was near us because other wise it would be none of our business?
10,000? 100,000? 10 million? 100 million?