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I should just note that this is possbilt the stupidest post I have ever seen in my life
And you think it is would be a bad thing if Britain were to be the most generous nation to those in need?
How twisted peoples values have become, more evidence that it is those that rail against the asylum seekers that are sapping Britsh culture
Most refugees live in the poor countries that are their neighbours. Asylum seekers are in fact quite lcuky in being able to get to Britian. Why should we not do our share to help these people?
Interesting you highlight Africa, Carribean, what about Aussies, Americans etc why not make them go home?
The Indian area of Leicester is far more interesting than some of the 'anonymous' council estates. I agree that in the Short run people will live with those of a similar background, who wouldn't?
In the long run however I would expect the populations to diffuse somewhat into suburbia etc, you are only talking about modern immigartion.
Looking back in history, can you now tell the areas where Romans, Normans, Celts, Saxons still ive seperately?
Of course you can't because they don't anymore and I fully expect this to be the case with all the groups who now liuve in Britian in the future........
Most certainly I think.
Has anyone ever seen a newspaper column or heard someone in the pub etc. complaining about Australians theiving our jobs?
I know I haven't.........
So no problems whatsoever with this particular group of illegal immigrants as far as the S*n and the Mosley are concerned.
the 'anonymous' council estates weren't built to be interesting but to provide basic housing for deprived people. Thats a subjective POV anyway, architecturally council estates can be interesting , the people - -according to taste. A pal in E.Ham didn't find it very interesting the way the Asians there heavied up on him (White) over minor matters like parking.
As fo Ozzies, they drift in+ out of jobs they're can fill and go home, I'm not aware of a problem with that. having seen asylum seekers in hostels, working on cars in street, theiving from houses...that's another matter. Plus there's the wider problem of UK being targetted, ppl queing in Calais for the land of milk + honey
They're not allowed to work legally. And yes, I'm sure that some asylum seekers are involved in crime. But to extrapolate from this that all are, is the sign of an idiot who can't think.
blagstar.........
TWAT. How dare you? Maybe you would like to come and visit my auntie who got raped:mad: Maybe you would like to speak to my old humanities teacher whose kids are now growing up without a Dad would you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: I hope I met you one day, PM on its way anytime you want.
Not in my opinion it isnt, I love the way people have the perception of Leicester being a wonderful multi-racial paradise, in reality when you get down here, its just asians living on the east of the city and whites living on the west with a sprinkling on each side. Its two seperate cities in a way.
Compare Australian to Asain immigration and you see why. Also I think Australians would have a far better grasp of adopting CURRENT english culture than asians as well, really wouldnt take a genius to work that out.
Yes I think it would be a terrible thing, look at the state of teh country, cant fund an NHS, schools short of money, pensioners starving. Poverty becoming increasingly common.
Of course immigration has nothing to do with it:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
you're welcome to come to Brixton and meet me anytime.
I was questioning your assertion that there was a rise in crime and that it was linked to the asylum seekers. Its a well known phenomenan that when "outsiders" come into an area, they get blamed for all the crime going on, that was happening anyway. Its called "scapegoating", read some sociology sometime.
No it doesn't. You're aiming your anger at the wrong people, people who are at the bottom of the heap too. Try blaming the people who refuse to pay any more taxes to fund services, blame the bosses that skim off the money, blame the politicians for privatisation and for having the money to bomb Iraq but not to fund the NHS properly. Think for yourself, don't just blindly follow what you've been told.
Im in London next monday, not coming into Brixton but I could meet at train station if you fancy it? arriving about 12ish
mind you, if I lived in Brixton, I wouldnt want to either.
I could join in the discussion but I gave up trying to change the mind of prejudice people a long time ago.
Subjective? Just like a lot of what you have been saying then?
UK being targetted as the land of milk and honey?
Did you read Aladdins post earlier? Lower per capita rates and low benefits and few job permits, think about it!
Oh dear, are you from Leicester? I assume not else you would realise what crap you were talking. East side/ west side?
This country is at just about the best it has ever been.
NHS - life expectancy the best it has ever been, and would that be so if it were not for the huge number of immigrants working for it?
Schools - pretty good really, again much helped by immigrant teachers also.
Pensioners starving, would this be helped with less immigrants? Or would it be worse due to a demographic crisis and less workers in care homes etc?
Think about it?
Add to this the 2000 immigrants who were recruited overseas for the Armed Forces in recent years, following people like my great-uncles who fought for this country (WW1&2) so people could have the right to spit on their memory
And the immigrants propping up agriculture, the hotel and catering industries and the service sector.
RWB if its a row your looking for why don't you take it out on some Gurkhas or would Cass Pennant be more down your street?
Now that would be a flood.........
Yes I am actually.
Can you please argue the point about how most asians live on one side of Leicester and most whites live on the other? Not really a point you can argue with.
Tell ya what, just to make it easier for you when you get back for a break take a day walking through Blaby, Aylestone, Narboro etc........then take a day walking through Evington, Belgrave Road, Highfields, if you can see through your liberal fantasy take a look and then try and argue my point.
Had to go in one about 6 months ago, shortage of beds, hardly a doctor or nurse that could talk english. Cant believe you brought life expectancy into an argument about the NHS, wouldnt you think life expectancy had more to do with lifestyle than the countrys health service?
Your opinion. I wouldnt agree.
Met Cass a few years back, very nice bloke and not a guy you would want to mess with, not a fan of the way he has gone public on his activities in order to make cash though, I told him that and he understood. Decent bloke still.
Immigrant workers have only been needed due to the fact of the amount of immigrants that have came into the country has made it neccessary. We have 3 million unemployed in the country. There arent that many immigrants.
On your second part, I cannot believe you are serious about that, the NHS, London Transport and various industries up and down the country were heavily recruiting overseas in the 50s when non-white faces were a rarity on British streets.
Irish construction workers have been coming over for decades.
The example on the military, in my families case alone goes back to 1914
btw, I'd actually say Cass was quite right wing in his views.
Benefit culture? Not at all attractive, I spent a few weeks on the dole in the last recession and wouldn't wish it on anybody. As for limited immigration policies, the government recently announced a new scheme for this and got the inevitable response from the right wing press.
Regarding Cass, it doesn't surprise me, not all ethnic minorities hold left wing views just look at Michael Howard!
I really can't see how providing food and shelter to people has anything to do with conquering another country. I am a left, but from what is happening right now, the BNP is getting more and more votes, and although I wouldn't vote for them if I could, I understand the motive of the people that do.
Big deal, we have murders here too and they're not just by assylum seekers... in fact we haven't had any by them.
Can I have a link to that picture? Actually a group of white lads kicked off on an assylum seeker and his mates came to back him up. They mostly used ripped off chairlegs and stuff really. Also, if I lived in Caia park, I'd have a baseball bat in my house. The Dragon pub is right near where my brother lives and it's not the nicest area, trust me.
Traditional british culture is being well-spoken, well-mannered and keeping your head down and getting on with it. I was speaking of cultural characteristic values and not bloody food, music or sport. Foreign cultures are erasing these values. Most south East European, Arab and African peoples do not recognise these values and are therefore turning British society upside down.
Swedish people live in Sweden, Italians in Italy, Japanese in Japan and Moroccans in Morocco. So what the hell are thousands of Albanians, Italians, Poles, Chinese, Colombian Africans and Arabs doing in England illegally? And to those who are here to work and do keep their heads down, hats off to you, we need more like you and less of the illegals.
And fair play to Alladin, he's put forward a decent argument and backed it up with figures but my argument is not against asylum seekers who are in the UK legally but Illegal immigrants who are here ILLEGALLY, and the government doesn't give a t*ss.