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Whats it got to do with GDP? Quite a lot especially as people are want ot moan about the cost ect.
I am not bluffing, why can't you believe it? Are you honestly saying that you would take a paycut to have reduce the number of immigrants in this country?
Obvioulsy if every one went to London then there would be aproblem and it seems reasonable to try and even out the spread of immigrants but this is a national matter and I see no evidence that immigrants have placed any kind of excess strain on the infrastructure of the country.
OK, so you're 18. I'm nearly twice your age and I don't remember this "golden age" you're banging on about. I suspect you are merely parroting something you have heard your parents say.
Your points about "rudeboys" are understandable, but mostly born out of ignorance and fear I suspect. I have mates that dress like that and talk like that, its an aspect of black culture. While there is a section of people like this who undoubtedly do commit crime, they are a minority ime. I agree, it can be intimidating, but afro-carribean culture is a lot more up-front than most white British culture, it can be perceived as being aggressive, but generally isn't, most of it is banter, up-frontness.
btw, where in London do you live?
I live in Brixton, work on Croydon sometimes (I was there today as it goes).
I remember the first time I visited Brixton (over 10 years ago), I was intimidated by what I perceived to be the aggro, the groups of men hanging out on the street, seemingly shouting and arguing with each other. Then I realised (after getting to people in Brixton) that they are mostly just hanging out and bantering, it ain't aggro.
yeh but we changed the subject. Well that was my intention anyway
If you think I'm going to dredge up reams of facts to satisfy a few querulous student types, forget it. i've watched a fair few tv docs + reading , plus miraculously some Roma who used to impose upon a location near to me are not there, hallelujah, my preference is for them to have been deported rather than moved up north. Few Roma win asylum cases, I wish that knowledge would spread back to the Eastern Bloc .
but it ain't half moronic, mum
So you're just gonna keep on making things up? Way to win an argument, brainbox. :rolleyes:
Projection.
So you've changed your original position? Good for you.
Fair enough but you didn't answer the question, would you accept a pay cut to reduce the number of immigrants?
you mean tax-rises, yes, I would
Liberals are reactive and authoritarian's proactive. Lets just leave this for now and come back to it 10 years down the line. We'll see who's right in the end. At the moment, I'm too heavily influenced by things. I fucking hate black music BUT THATS MY OPINION so dont read into it. Chinese food, however, is very high up my list.... so I'm torn between cultures. Our society is becoming more cosmopolitan every day so I guess I should just accept that fact and get on with my life? And thats exactly what I'm going to do until an illegal immigrant hurts me or someone I care about in any way whatsoever. I also have to face something else, if an illegal does cause trouble, I will react to it more violently than if it was a Brit. Why? Because the illegal isnt even supposed to be here in the first place.
Thanks for all your opinions, 100 posts since I started this forum and you've all made me think about the situation in a different way. I'm gone.
So you hate all popular music then? It all has roots or has been massively influenced by black culture.
But you still haven't answered any of my points or backed up any of your arguments.
What is this "British culture" and how is it "being erased" (in your own words, don't just repeat what your parents/Daily Mail say)?
btw I'm not a Liberal. And authority does actually tend to be reactionary. :rolleyes:
So how are you going to know if they are here illegally? Ask to see their papers? Come on, get real.
And as I said earlier - to blame an entire section of the society for the actions of a small minority, is the thinking of an imbecile.
P.S. Sean Paul is a f***ing TWAT.
That has to be one of the funniest statements ever.
So house and techno and trance owe nothing to black music? LMFAO! You are sooooo ignorant. Where do you think it all has its roots? House from black gay clubs in Chicago/New York and techno from black clubs in Detroit. Trance has roots in early 90's techno. Never heard of Derrick May? Juan Atkins? Kevin Saunderson?
I used to play hardhouse until about 1999 when it got too cheesy and commercial. Most "funky" house is watered down commercial crap as well. I play deep house, tech-house, Detroit techno and electro/breaks.
P.S.
I like Sean Paul, he rocks. :cool:
The statement aint funny because its bullshit blagsta, Its funny because its the complete and utter truth.
It has its roots in techno and house, which originated from black clubs and people. Just because it doesn't fit into your narrow prejudiced view of things doesn't make it less true.
Read this
this
this
and this
And if you aint ever heard of Kraftwerk then you really dont know what you're on about
I'd actually reckon that Kraftwerk were more of an influence on electro and techno than trance though. Yes, trance has a massive European influence e.g. Tangerine Dream, Giorgio Moroder etc, but to deny it also has roots in techno (which is black originally) and disco (e.g Donna Summer's "I Feel Love") betrays an extreme ignorance.
I agree that trance these days sounds very "white" (one of the reasons it is also dull as fuck imo - no funk), but it wasn't always like that. Listen, I was going to trance clubs while you were still wearing shorts and pissing the bed at night, so I'd leave it if I were you. You're wrong, be a man and admit it.
The originators of house were mostly black too. Trance came out of house and techno in the early 90's.
If you want to remain ignorant, thats up to you. But you now have zero credibility in your ignorant racist arguments.