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Fuck me. I hope I'm never drowning when you're around.
Me: Help, help I can't swim!
You: I just need you to fill in this vice and virtue questionnaire.....
Would it make any difference if you knew that by the time you'd called the police and the RSPCA that both the child and cat would be dead?
Well the difference between fishing, & fox hunting is that fish are killed as a part of the food chain, Cows, pigs etc are all killed in a humane way, to be consumed, not chased to death around a field! As a matter of interest, what happens to the fox when it's finally caught, by how many ever dogs? Eaten? hmmm, doubt there'd be much left to eat. We all know that dogs are put down all the time, but in a painless way, & that wouldn't happen if people were responsible & got their animals neutered!
Whoa there quit with the insults!!! I would never put an animals life ABOVE a humans, but I don't intentionally go out & kill an innocent animal for the fun of it, just because us human's are more precious? Plus I'm intitled to my opinion on Broken Angels views, & you think her views are rubbish? Tell that to her then, poor girl is only trying to get her views across, & I support her. Plus I don't think the moderator takes too well to name calling.......
SHe's 12! I doubt I'd be able to save someone drowning, not to mind a 12 year old!
Exactly! Every time there's a drag hunt in our area there's always 3 0r 4 dogs wandering around the place, having gotten seperated from the rest. Last time, my husband rang one of the guys in the hunt , as one of the dogs was around our house for 2 days, & they came to collect the dog, after 3 days! How worried was he about his dog then?
*coughs* passed my swimming national curriculum aged 8 *coughs*
Anyway, age has nothing to do with it.
I'd let them drown, and hope somebody with more moral correctness than myself save them!
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Thank you. I have given up responding to skive now... no point he has his views, I have mine.
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I don't think being forced to become pregnant, stripped of your baby, and milked, every 3 months until you are five (then you die) is humane. (milk cows)
I don't think being "minced" alive at 3/4 days old is humane (male chicks)
Nor do I think being hung is humane, or caught in a net and beheaded.
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not really very humane.
FOR FUCK SAKE CAN YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT? TO BE QUITE HONEST I'M IN A VERY SUICIDAL MOOD AT THE MOMENT. I AM INCREDIBLY DEPRESSED. CAN YOU JUST STOP TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING? WHEN I GOT A NEW USER NAME, I WANTED IT TO BE A NEW START.
PLEASE, FOR GOD SAKE, DON'T BRING IT UP AGAIN. I AM NOT IN THE MOOD AT ALL.
ok, so you were just pointing out what was humane and what wasnt. You werent implying that you actually believed in only behaving humanely. Ok
i don't agree. If you believe in the sanctity of life it doesn't just apply to ages it applies to animal and even vegtable. If you think the life of a carrot is eqault to that of child or human than you're off your box.
Don't think I can explain. I just think fuck all that philosophical bullshit. I react on my instincts and that would include saving a childs life over yours or any other adult, just the same as it would include sving yours over any animal.
Child rape is worse than adult rape. Child murder is worse than adult murder. The killing of animal is not as bad as the killing of a fellow human being. I think most normal people agree - and that is why eating meating is not considered as bad as murder.
You can put a value on life, if you couldn't life would mean the same to everybody and there goes humanity.
Am I the crazy one here? Or are you lot just off you fucking head?
Don't get involed the discussion in the first place then. I'm sorry your not feeling too good at the moment. But you can't come into a discussion and mention suicide when somebody simply disagrees with you.
Unless it cost the life of more people. Yep.
All extinction costs something. Even indirectly.
Would you give your life to save cockroaches as a species?
The arguamt here is whether you can put a value on life.
I think you can. And I think anybody who disagrees is out their fucking mind.
Well, do we know where they fit in the food chain? There could be an indirect impact on us somewhere.
Anyway, I know what you're saying, dude. I just don't think that a child necessarily deserves to be placed at a higher level of importance than someone of an older age. Just as you probably think people against fox hunting are seduced by a fox's cute-cuddly-furry appearance that lends them sympathy, children are cute too and draw the same reaction from us. I think your response is more emotional than rational.
Putting a vaulue on life makes you more human not less. Of course if you a
Because people see cute animals as human baby like but they not. Push come to shove 99% of people would put more vaule on human life than any other.
If rational means being inhuman then I'd rathe be emotional thank you. I make no apolgies for it.
Would you not put the life of a child beffore that of an adult, the life of a stanger before that of a fox? I fucking hope you would. I know you would. Tell me I'm wrong as mcuh as you life but I'm just saying what you'd do yourself. Now tell me why that's wrong?
Dogs serve a purpose.
Name one purpose that a fox serves and I'll stop hunting now.
You know what skive? I don't care what you think. I'm perfectly happy to be in this discussion, but I don't want people bringing up things from when I was crying-angel anywhere on the boards. Even if there was a board called "let's annoy broken-angel by talking about when she was crying-angel" I still wouldn't fucking what things brought up.
PLEASE don't mention things again.
And, she didn't disagree, she brought up another subject. And, I mentioned "suicide" because I don't want things to topple me over the edge at the moment. PLEASE. I know you might not like me, you might think I am a complete cunt, and I wont disagree. I know I am. But right now, I'd prefer to be left alone and not talked about personally. At this moment I just want to hide in a corner and never come out, so just please please, I'm begging you on my hands and knees, don't mention things from when I was crying-angel. Please.
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A fox serves the exact same purpose of all of us. To grow up, to be part of a family, to be loved, to eat, to sleep, to wake, and care for others.
When I was younger I sat for hours in the park watching a fox cub, it was playing with one of our dogs. They are dogs, but just dogs that haven't been ruined by humans. Dogs that still do what dogs are supposed to do.
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In the sober light of day I see that now. Didn't read the thread properly, I'm sorry.
None of that's true.
That's not to say some species don't need culling. They do, and foxes are one of them. It's just the nature of the culling where the disagreement generally lies.
Awwwww.....
So do you extend that to every sentient being, or just cude cuddly ones?
That's a nice thought, but total bollocks.
When I was in the Galapagos islands, I watched sea lions socialising and playing. It was quite like how dogs do. However, that does not make them dogs.
Foxes are no more dogs than I am a goldfish. That I can swim and have a short memory bank does not make me a goldfish.
I think you're confusing foxes with wolves.