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that sums it up for me :thumb:
Sorry I just think that people's views on things change as they age, & have a more mature view on life in their thirties, like I do now. Boy did I do some stupid crap in my twenties & you live to regret these things. I suppose we are all entitled to our opinions but I think that properly controlling the wild animal population is one thing, but chasing little animals for fun? I think live & let live, because these things will always come back to bite you in the arse (excuse the pun,:rolleyes: )
So by that rationale, the only people qualified to speak on the issue are nonogenarians? Then again, they do a lot more stupid crap than centerians... What a load of guff. Most people who go hunting are above 30.
Why do you think humans are worth saving over any other life form, as a matter of interest? Is this a religious thing?
I can't belive what Skive said!! That stranger could be a serial killer... a child abuser... a wife beater. And he would kill all of one kind of animal, for that one person? I'd rather die than hurt an animal. As a vegan, and a buddhist, I belive we are equal. That little ant you steped on could be the leader of a country in the next life. You just don't know.
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I was simply stating that maturity comes with age, the majority of people that go on drag hunts in my local area are students beacuse I know them. Drag hunting I can accept. BUt I just can't get past the cruelty aspect of fox hunting, here it shows how Bord Failte (Irelands tourist board) promoted Blood sports, in a greedy, sick attempt at making money out of the suffering of little animals. http://www.banbloodsports.com/ln-bordf.htm
Likewise that stranger could go on to discover the cure for cancer. Your saying it's not worth saving a strangers life because they because they may be bad people? I'm sorry but I don't think you've thought this argument through.
I'd rather live in a world where people put other people above anything else. It's a fundamental part of being human.
That's a stupid thing to say and you may beleive it, but I don't.
Well by stepping on that little ant your helping them on their way.
BUt people don't put people above anything else. Let alone animals. Life is life, be it a man woman child cat dog fox......I definelty say live & let live.
Broken angel, are you really only 12? Great views!
I'm of the view that fox hunting should never have been banned in the first place, loads of dogs got put down..... But i'm unsure as to now whether it should be made legal again.
Not always but they should.
If you consider all life to be of equal worth than do you inlcude vegtable in that aswell, or is it just sentient life your talking about?
Either way if you don't hold the welfare of a child or just another person to be more important than that of any animal you truely are a nutter and certainly not somebody I could fully trust.
It's not that that I don't hold the welfare of animals to be unimportant just that their some way down the list, certainly behind family, friends, myself and strangers.
No they're not. They're absurd.
I'll try that again.
Why do you think humans are worth saving over any other life form, as a matter of interest? Is this a religious thing?
Sorry missed your previous post.
I'm not religious at all. The answer is because I am human. A childs life is more valuable than that of an adult, and human more than that of an animal.
Obviously the life is equal brigade disagree. But then I don't think they've got any clear answers yet either. If all life was equal they wouldn't even be eating veg, they wouldn't be able to take a step without being scared of stepping on an ant.
I'd they'd have to accept the fact that their own childs life is no more important than that of cockroach.
Empathy makes us human. It's not a bad thing to put a value on life. It's a good thing.
Why do you think that?
"We gotta come to some new ideas about life folks ok? I'm not being blase about abortion, it might be a real issue, it might not, doesn't matter to me. What matters is that if you believe in the sanctity of life then you believe it for life of all ages. That's what I hate about this child-worship syndrome going on. "Save the children! They're killing children! How many children were at Waco? They're killing children!" What does that mean? They reach a certain age and they're off your fucking love-list? Fuck your children, if that's the way you think then fuck you too. You either love all people of all ages or you shut the fuck up."
Strongly agree.
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For example, I think murdering say, a 20 year old is morally speaking worse than murdering a newborn baby. That's not to say I'm arguing for infanticide; just that it's not as bad as killing someone who has a sense of their own identity and an understanding of themselves as a being with a future and with projects and goals.
I can see no reason to think children's lives are more valuable than those of adults.
Although my own children are more important than any of you
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Thats because youve never had anyone youve loved
First of all, I don't care if they discoverd the cure for cancer. They would of tested on animals to do so.
I would not put people before "everything else" we are a disgusting race of iggnorent wankers. Look what we have done to the world! You and I included.
Also, about the ant, you wouldn't be helping him on his way. He or she wouldn't of forfilled their life or do good deeds, therefore would be unable to achive what they may of achived with another day of life.
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Yes, I have. And I still do love him. But I wouldn't kill for him, I wouldn't harm something someone else may love, for him. Because that would hurt more people.
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You're walking through a park and you come across two ponds. In one pond is an eight-year-old child drowning. In the other is a cat drowning. You only have time to save one. Do you choose the cat?