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Is it shallow to be attracted to attractiveness, and look down on others?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can't relate to ugly people either.

    They just have no idea what it's like to be stunning attractive. The amount of time I'm forced to spend looking in a mirror, the hours it takes to do my hair...

    And the horror of going to the supermarket! They all look like Hagar the Horrible after someone had sat on his chest and gave his face a good sandpapering. Either that or a melted version of old man Steptoe. Or Prince Charles after someone hit him in the face with a fire extinguisher.

    It's got to the point where I have to keep a polariod of myself handy to pull out and look at when the hideousness of the general public overwhelms me.

    Ugly people! Know your place! Stay indoors with the blinds closed at all times! And if you must leave your house to do ugly people things, have the consideration to put a bag with a beautiful person's photo sellotaped to the front on.

    :o
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    In a culture of "I scratch my back you scratch mine" there is a solid relationship of helping one another out whether in a personal/social or business circumstance because you know they'll be there for you in return. But no if I was in a car-crash and became horribly disfigured / unemployed of course I'd lose a lot of people close to me, but I'd opt for euthanasia anyway, wouldn't want them to spend time with me when I can't give them anything back.

    Have you ever had or actually know what a real friednship is about Jomery? With most of my friends we've had good times and bad times but I still care for them no matter what happens, thats the point of true friendship.

    Your coming across to me as a user who will finish superficial realtionships the second someone stops being useful to you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    For a start, if you're that hot, someone would have shagged you by now.
    :lol: This is true!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    For a start, if you're that hot, someone would have shagged you by now. Otherwise, don't I remember you're an oxbridge graduate? Doesn't that tend to involve some intellectual spark?
    Jomery isn't actually that hideous. He kissed a 16 year old once, but she was ugly apparently.

    It's also difficult to shag people on a high horse... balance and all.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think we should just leave Jomery to get on with it. He doesn't take the advice people give (and some of it is very good advice), and appears unwilling to change his outlook on things.

    Personally, I'm willing to be friendly with pretty much anyone. I don't care what they look like, and I'm sure as hell most people don't think like you as I'm fat and not too hot so I'd have no friends at all if they did. Funnily enough though, finding friends and indeed menfolk romantically/sexually has never been a problem for me particularly, maybe its because I'm not a stuck up snob and have depth beyond my appearance. And as for your VIP clubs? I'd rather go to a grungy little club and have a fab time with people who don't give a shit than one of the supposed high end venues you keep banging on about where only the "beautiful" people count.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    Misery loves company and so does arrogance.
    Have been called arrogant quite often on this site. Arrogance means having an inflated opinion of yourself, thinking you're better than you actually are. I don't think I do. I'm very healthy (county sports), intelligent (Oxbridge degree, high IQ), good job/career prospects, well-groomed, speak well, very popular/likeable in person- people want to get to know me. On the downside I'm rubbish with women, but that may slowly sort itself out- am dating a nice girl (investment banker). All in all therefore I don't think I have an inflated opinion of myself, I'm actually doing pretty damn well overall compared to most people my age.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Acrobat wrote: »
    I think we should just leave Jomery to get on with it. He doesn't take the advice people give (and some of it is very good advice), and appears unwilling to change his outlook on things.
    I read every single thing people write on these threads, and read them repeatedly, last week I spent hours reading through people's advice from earlier threads. But it's harder than you think to just change my outlook because of what people say - eg I find fat people disgusting and would be embarrassed to associate with them, I can't help how I feel about that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Out of interest, how did you manage to meet and start seeing this investment banker jomery? You say she works 6 days a week 100+ hours...when would she have time to socialise with you?
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    I just can't relate.

    :lol:

    Maybe most people can't relate to people as hiddeous inside as you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Have been called arrogant quite often on this site. Arrogance means having an inflated opinion of yourself, thinking you're better than you actually are. I don't think I do. I'm very healthy (county sports), intelligent (Oxbridge degree, high IQ), good job/career prospects, well-groomed, speak well, very popular/likeable in person- people want to get to know me. On the downside I'm rubbish with women, but that may slowly sort itself out- am dating a nice girl (investment banker). All in all therefore I don't think I have an inflated opinion of myself, I'm actually doing pretty damn well overall compared to most people my age.

    Oh no?
    I dislike ugly people and would be embarrassed to be associated with them / seen hanging out with them.
    ^ if this isn't arrogance then I don't know what is.

    You know, sometimes you don't come across as a very nice person Jomery. I don't know you away from thesite, but going by what you've posted. I would say you're arrogant and up yourself and you would do well by admitting that and sorting yourself out and not comparing yourself to others. That is going by what you have written of course, maybe you are actually a nice person outside thesite. You wonder why people flame you? basically because you insult so many of us by implying we're beneath you.

    So you're doing well... good for you. Affluence does not lead to happiness. Being around people you love and being free to be yourself is happiness. I don't see how a person who is happy can ever be so judgemental... If a person's appearance is seen as too offensive to be associated with... Well, it shows serious issues on your part and says a lot about what sort of person you really are.

    Do you really want to spend your whole life looking down your nose at other people, then posting on internet messageboards hinting towards how in some ways your life isn't complete, how you're a virgin ect ect?

    In fact, does it hurt when people judge you as a virgin? Do you think it's acceptable at all for people to judge you on that? How is it any different from the way in which you judge others for their social class or physical appearance?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Have been called arrogant quite often on this site. Arrogance means having an inflated opinion of yourself, thinking you're better than you actually are. I don't think I do. I'm very healthy (county sports), intelligent (Oxbridge degree, high IQ), good job/career prospects, well-groomed, speak well, very popular/likeable in person- people want to get to know me. On the downside I'm rubbish with women, but that may slowly sort itself out- am dating a nice girl (investment banker). All in all therefore I don't think I have an inflated opinion of myself, I'm actually doing pretty damn well overall compared to most people my age.

    So why do you constantly seek the approval of complete strangers on the internet?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    icey wrote: »
    Out of interest, how did you manage to meet and start seeing this investment banker jomery? You say she works 6 days a week 100+ hours...when would she have time to socialise with you?

    How does she sleep?
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Jomery wrote: »
    I'm actually doing pretty damn well overall compared to most people my age.

    You may be doing well, but that doesn't make you a likeable person, only to those who think like yourself.

    I tell you where your going wrong with women - most like blokes with a little bit of depth.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    How does she sleep?

    Sleep is for the weak.

    Power naps at your desk, it's the only way to stay at the top. That and listening to Huey Lewis.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    icey wrote: »
    Out of interest, how did you manage to meet and start seeing this investment banker jomery? You say she works 6 days a week 100+ hours...when would she have time to socialise with you?

    If it was a choice of spending time with Jomery or spending all evening in the office, I know what I would choose. :p

    Roll on the 100 hour week :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    icey wrote: »
    Out of interest, how did you manage to meet and start seeing this investment banker jomery? You say she works 6 days a week 100+ hours...when would she have time to socialise with you?
    She came across me in a piece on successful graduates in a careers magazine and msg'd me saying she thought I was 'cute', heh.. we've got so much in common and are great together, problem is yeah I get to see her at most once a week even though she's not that far from me. But the way Investment banking works is there's a few months she'll be really busy followed by quieter periods so hopefully I'll get to see her more then. But yeah people who choose to do IB are making a sacrifice that it's very hard to have a relationship unless you've been together with someone a while and live with them, which is why I chose to do something not quite so well-paying but much better hours.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I read every single thing people write on these threads, and read them repeatedly, last week I spent hours reading through people's advice from earlier threads. But it's harder than you think to just change my outlook because of what people say - eg I find fat people disgusting and would be embarrassed to associate with them, I can't help how I feel about that.

    Just because you read what people advise it doesn't mean you take the advice given to you.

    If you're embarrassed to associate with fat people then better not reply to any more of my posts. I might taint your wonderful (ha!) life in some way because I'm carrying a few extra pounds :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    In fact, does it hurt when people judge you as a virgin?
    Yes.
    Namaste wrote:
    Do you think it's acceptable at all for people to judge you on that?
    Yes. It is pathetic that I am still a virgin so I deserve to be looked down on for that as people on this site have done.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    haha thank god i'm happily attached or else I might just volunteer to kill this thread...which seems to be another "aren't i better than everyone else" thread.

    then again, I'm not at Cambridge yet and I'm a size 8 not 0 so I'm probably not good enough for him anyway :chin:
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Jomery wrote: »
    It is pathetic that I am still a virgin so I deserve to be looked down on for that

    It's not, and you don't.

    What you have to realise though that the reason you don't have much luck with women is your attitude.

    You expect to do well with the ladies through good looks and money.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote: »
    What you have to realise though that the reason you don't have much luck with women is your attitude.

    You expect to do well with the ladies through good looks and money.
    Other guys treat women much, much worse than me and have had all the luck. I know lots of guys who've cheated and the girl still keeps crawling back. Guys who flash their cash and use that as their key selling point much more than me. Anyway I'm not too bothered abt this anymore 'cos I'm confident it could happen with banker girl quite soon.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Other guys treat women much, much worse than me and have had all the luck. I know lots of guys who've cheated and the girl still keeps crawling back. Guys who flash their cash and use that as their key selling point much more than me. Anyway I'm not too bothered abt this anymore 'cos I'm confident it could happen with banker girl quite soon.

    Oh please...

    There's nothing sad about being a virgin... But it is very sad that you seem to objectify women, or think that because you're 'nice' to them then they're somehow obliged to sleep with you (because women are like that, yeah).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    Other guys treat women much, much worse than me and have had all the luck.

    *YAWN*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Reading through this thread has just left me completely befuddled. We seem to have a man here who is completely vain and artificial. We then have half of TheSite making futile efforts to try to get him to see this. I'm just left feeling cold by it all. At the end of the day, if you're only going to befriend people whom you consider to be gorgeous, that means the possible pool of friends would be very limited indeed.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    At the end of the day, if you're only going to befriend people whom you consider to be gorgeous, that means the possible pool of friends would be very limited indeed.
    I live in London. There's over 7 million people here. I think I can comfortably afford to shun more than 99% of the population and still have more than enough people to get a good pool of friends from - work, graduate events, nightclubs etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not if you are left with the 1% who are wankers.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I live in London. There's over 7 million people here. I think I can comfortably afford to shun more than 99% of the population and still have more than enough people to get a good pool of friends from - work, graduate events, nightclubs etc.
    Fair enough. I'll happily speak to the 99% you mention, leaving you to deal with the bimbos that consist of the other 1%.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not if you are left with the 1% who are wankers.

    I am glad that there is only 1% of people like that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    I am glad that there is only 1% of people like that.
    I'd call most of the British population wankers. People who pick fights for no reason when they get drunk, mindless racists, football hooligans with their pathetic drunken chants, people who drink too much and end up throwing up week after week never learning to watch their limit, etc. And yes I'd class myself as a wanker too 'cos I'm selfish.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jomery wrote: »
    I'd call most of the British population wankers. People who pick fights for no reason when they get drunk, mindless racists, football hooligans with their pathetic drunken chants, people who drink too much and end up throwing up week after week never learning to watch their limit, etc. And yes I'd class myself as a wanker too 'cos I'm selfish.

    Racism, sexism, body fascism... It's all the same tbh.

    Superiority complexes, chips on shoulders, hatred, snobbery... Yadda yadda.

    Tbh though, associating with 'most the British population' would be a start to understanding them. 'Most' of the British population isn't how you've described.
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