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Being with someone who has BPD
My lovely boyfriend has Borderline Personality Disorder and it is coming up to 2 1/2 years of us being together. Now, there are over 200 different ways you can fit the criteria to be diagnosed so please take this as one person's experience and not as the definition of BPD has a whole. If it helps you great and if it doesn't, there will be something else that does.
But here are a few things that he and I do which have worked for us and in some ways really improved our communication - that is the most challenging but rewarding part to handle but once you can talk and understand each other, it becomes a million times easier.
1. See what information is out there. I recommend Dr Daniel J Fox on YouTube - he really helped both my and SO to understand which behaviour is linked to BPD, how to spot patterns and really why things are the way they are so we can figure out to improve things for us both. It also mentions how to be aware of risks and how to make decisions that help you stay safe.
2. I highly recommend using SET-UP (Support, Empathy, truth, understating and preservance) communication for everyone not even those struggling handling BPD. It helps reassure them that we are on their side while achklowdging their feelings, holding everyone (including yourself) accountable and finding a mutually beneficial solution. I could talk about SET all day as I use it with my BPD SO and my autistic sister. I use it at work to mediate and I swear by this. So please let me know if you want me to go into detail about it.
3. Separating the symptoms from the person.
For most people with mental helath illness, it is easy to do this. But with BPD, it is a personality disorder. Therefore, it ties deeply into their sense of self - they do not know how to separate the symptoms from themselves as it all feels as if it is their own feelings or thoughts. That is why it is so important as a support network to help them realise which parts are them. I know for example, when his BPD is showing, he will say certain things like he hates the flat we live in and that I forced him to live here. I know this is his BPD as I know he worries about us loosing the flat due to his episodes and that we will have no where else to live - the BPD internalised this anxiety and converted into the phrase "I hate the flat" because then if we do loose the flat for whatever reason, the bpd has already stated his disgust over it and therefore it won't be as devastating if we did loose it in comparison to the pain he would feel if he did acknowledge how much he doesn't want to loose it. The key to knowing how he genuinely feels about things is to ask him when the BPD isn't so present so that you can remind him of his true feelings that he has told you (it will work even better if you ask him to write it down because then he cannot argue with his own physical words that he can see he wrote himself). I often say to him when his BPD is talking for him, "I hear you but I spoke to my SO earlier and he told me that he doesn't want us to loose the flat and that he likes it here. Therefore, I will listen to what my SO has to say as I love and care about him and I do not want to listen to the BPD as it is not what my SO has told me - he does not feel like that even if the BPD is trying to make him feel thay way, my SO has told me he likes the flat when I spoke to him earlier and because I love and care about him, I will listen to him instead. But thank you anyway". By achklowdging the BPD's presence you establish that his BPD is present and that these false feelings are real to him, but you also remind them that they are not what true to how genuinely feels himself. It is complicated but when you have BPD, your sense of identity and values change depending on how you are feeling at the moment in time, so by reminding him of his core values it brings him some stability and brings them back to their feelings are valid and does not need to change - he can still want to stay in the flat even though he feels anxious about us being told leave. He does not need to pretend he doesn't like the flat because he is anxious. I hope this makes sense.
4. Look after yourself.
You are as important as anyone else. You need to make sure you have a support network and are taking care yourself too. By neglecting yourself, not only are you causing harm to yourself but you will eventually become unable to support the person who is relying on you - you are only human and sometimes it is easy to forget when you have the expectations you are a superhero. You are a hero but you are human. You have limits. Pace yourself and give yourself time to genuinely relax too.
5. We are team.
One of the best things that has helped my SO is reinforcing the fact that we are a team. Through thick and thin. We are on the same side, by each others side. When it goes to chaos, we are a team. When things are going well we are a team. My SO recently forgot to pay his phone bill due to his poor finance management that is linked to his BPD, he didn't not want me to cover it. But I told him we are a team and that he has done so well working on his finances that the occasional slip up is expected. But we are a team, your becomes us. We did good today, we need to work on this. How can we get the solution. Even if they need to do the ground work, you will suport them. Therfore it is an us solution - a team solution. I paid his phone bill because we are fortunate that I had the money to do so but also because as a team it is our phone bill now. Let me help you, help us. I know he would have done the same for me if the tables were turned. Or at least he would have liked to if he wasn't struggling so much with his disorder but his drive for him wanting to get better so one day he can do things like that for us, is enough for me to suport us. He knows we are a team and that we work towards a better tomorrow together. This helps the common BPD feeling of being alone and being paranoid everyone is going to leave you - the fear of abandonment. The simple phrase "I am on your side, you do not need to fight me".
6. Boundaries
There are lines that should not be crossed and there should be mutual understanding of where that line is and what the consequences are if it is crossed - the consequences should be something you can stick to. For example, my SO knows that if he starts having a severe BPD episode and he decides to leave the flat during it, that I will call the emergency services if he does leave as my priority is to keep him safe and there has been past experiences where he has put himself at risk. He is less likely to do harmful behaviours towards himself if I am present and he stays at the flat. Therefore, we both know that it is with best intentions that he stays in the flat with me. Even if at the moment he does not like the idea, he knows it is for the best. We have a shared goal to keep him safe and a shared understanding of why the emergency services are called when it is needed.
7. You cannot have a rainbow without rain.
Accept the situation, accept the good, the bad and all the days inbetween. You want to more of those fond memories so remind yourself of them to have something to strive for and know that they can learn to manage their disorder so that the fond times happen more and more. But do not discredit how important the bad days are, they are the signpost that shows you what you need to work on, where you started and how far you have come. It gives you invaluable lessons. You will not notice change until you do something out of habit and realise you do not need to do that any more. Make sure your mind keeps up with the changes, do not allow yourself to get stuck in the past and miss the bright future infront of you because you are busy chasing your own shadow. Give them time, give yourself time and allow growth. There will be mistakes, and thats okay. Accept them and move forward. Be patient and be hopeful.
8. Risk Assess
Research BPD, know the risks such as substance abuse, addictions and be mindful of this. Explain that certain choices need to be made to keep everyone safe as they are more at risk. For example, my SO has struggled with drinking. I explained to him that drinking itself is not an issue when having a leisurely drink with dinner. But when he became more likely to harm himself when drinking, we had to have a conversation to say that if we want to stay safe, then we would need to put in place steps to reduce the risks which were in this case to avoid the risks of drinking when we are not feeling great
Personally, I believe everything happens for a reason. And it is most often with mental health issues, you hit rock bottom before it starts to get better.
If it is meant to be, it is meant to be and whatever that is, it has a purpose for being.
No one is responsible for the situation you are in, there are many factors that have brought this to you. But it is your responsibility what you and your SO does with it. You can both accept it and use it as something to build upon. BPD is not a life prison sentence, it is an agreed understanding that their brain is wired differently so we need to adapt how we do things so they are kept safe.
Wish you all the very best and feel free to give me a shout if you want to talk about anything. Related to this post or not.
I'm not here to judge. Only to be human with fellow humans. ☺
But here are a few things that he and I do which have worked for us and in some ways really improved our communication - that is the most challenging but rewarding part to handle but once you can talk and understand each other, it becomes a million times easier.
1. See what information is out there. I recommend Dr Daniel J Fox on YouTube - he really helped both my and SO to understand which behaviour is linked to BPD, how to spot patterns and really why things are the way they are so we can figure out to improve things for us both. It also mentions how to be aware of risks and how to make decisions that help you stay safe.
2. I highly recommend using SET-UP (Support, Empathy, truth, understating and preservance) communication for everyone not even those struggling handling BPD. It helps reassure them that we are on their side while achklowdging their feelings, holding everyone (including yourself) accountable and finding a mutually beneficial solution. I could talk about SET all day as I use it with my BPD SO and my autistic sister. I use it at work to mediate and I swear by this. So please let me know if you want me to go into detail about it.
3. Separating the symptoms from the person.
For most people with mental helath illness, it is easy to do this. But with BPD, it is a personality disorder. Therefore, it ties deeply into their sense of self - they do not know how to separate the symptoms from themselves as it all feels as if it is their own feelings or thoughts. That is why it is so important as a support network to help them realise which parts are them. I know for example, when his BPD is showing, he will say certain things like he hates the flat we live in and that I forced him to live here. I know this is his BPD as I know he worries about us loosing the flat due to his episodes and that we will have no where else to live - the BPD internalised this anxiety and converted into the phrase "I hate the flat" because then if we do loose the flat for whatever reason, the bpd has already stated his disgust over it and therefore it won't be as devastating if we did loose it in comparison to the pain he would feel if he did acknowledge how much he doesn't want to loose it. The key to knowing how he genuinely feels about things is to ask him when the BPD isn't so present so that you can remind him of his true feelings that he has told you (it will work even better if you ask him to write it down because then he cannot argue with his own physical words that he can see he wrote himself). I often say to him when his BPD is talking for him, "I hear you but I spoke to my SO earlier and he told me that he doesn't want us to loose the flat and that he likes it here. Therefore, I will listen to what my SO has to say as I love and care about him and I do not want to listen to the BPD as it is not what my SO has told me - he does not feel like that even if the BPD is trying to make him feel thay way, my SO has told me he likes the flat when I spoke to him earlier and because I love and care about him, I will listen to him instead. But thank you anyway". By achklowdging the BPD's presence you establish that his BPD is present and that these false feelings are real to him, but you also remind them that they are not what true to how genuinely feels himself. It is complicated but when you have BPD, your sense of identity and values change depending on how you are feeling at the moment in time, so by reminding him of his core values it brings him some stability and brings them back to their feelings are valid and does not need to change - he can still want to stay in the flat even though he feels anxious about us being told leave. He does not need to pretend he doesn't like the flat because he is anxious. I hope this makes sense.
4. Look after yourself.
You are as important as anyone else. You need to make sure you have a support network and are taking care yourself too. By neglecting yourself, not only are you causing harm to yourself but you will eventually become unable to support the person who is relying on you - you are only human and sometimes it is easy to forget when you have the expectations you are a superhero. You are a hero but you are human. You have limits. Pace yourself and give yourself time to genuinely relax too.
5. We are team.
One of the best things that has helped my SO is reinforcing the fact that we are a team. Through thick and thin. We are on the same side, by each others side. When it goes to chaos, we are a team. When things are going well we are a team. My SO recently forgot to pay his phone bill due to his poor finance management that is linked to his BPD, he didn't not want me to cover it. But I told him we are a team and that he has done so well working on his finances that the occasional slip up is expected. But we are a team, your becomes us. We did good today, we need to work on this. How can we get the solution. Even if they need to do the ground work, you will suport them. Therfore it is an us solution - a team solution. I paid his phone bill because we are fortunate that I had the money to do so but also because as a team it is our phone bill now. Let me help you, help us. I know he would have done the same for me if the tables were turned. Or at least he would have liked to if he wasn't struggling so much with his disorder but his drive for him wanting to get better so one day he can do things like that for us, is enough for me to suport us. He knows we are a team and that we work towards a better tomorrow together. This helps the common BPD feeling of being alone and being paranoid everyone is going to leave you - the fear of abandonment. The simple phrase "I am on your side, you do not need to fight me".
6. Boundaries
There are lines that should not be crossed and there should be mutual understanding of where that line is and what the consequences are if it is crossed - the consequences should be something you can stick to. For example, my SO knows that if he starts having a severe BPD episode and he decides to leave the flat during it, that I will call the emergency services if he does leave as my priority is to keep him safe and there has been past experiences where he has put himself at risk. He is less likely to do harmful behaviours towards himself if I am present and he stays at the flat. Therefore, we both know that it is with best intentions that he stays in the flat with me. Even if at the moment he does not like the idea, he knows it is for the best. We have a shared goal to keep him safe and a shared understanding of why the emergency services are called when it is needed.
7. You cannot have a rainbow without rain.
Accept the situation, accept the good, the bad and all the days inbetween. You want to more of those fond memories so remind yourself of them to have something to strive for and know that they can learn to manage their disorder so that the fond times happen more and more. But do not discredit how important the bad days are, they are the signpost that shows you what you need to work on, where you started and how far you have come. It gives you invaluable lessons. You will not notice change until you do something out of habit and realise you do not need to do that any more. Make sure your mind keeps up with the changes, do not allow yourself to get stuck in the past and miss the bright future infront of you because you are busy chasing your own shadow. Give them time, give yourself time and allow growth. There will be mistakes, and thats okay. Accept them and move forward. Be patient and be hopeful.
8. Risk Assess
Research BPD, know the risks such as substance abuse, addictions and be mindful of this. Explain that certain choices need to be made to keep everyone safe as they are more at risk. For example, my SO has struggled with drinking. I explained to him that drinking itself is not an issue when having a leisurely drink with dinner. But when he became more likely to harm himself when drinking, we had to have a conversation to say that if we want to stay safe, then we would need to put in place steps to reduce the risks which were in this case to avoid the risks of drinking when we are not feeling great
Personally, I believe everything happens for a reason. And it is most often with mental health issues, you hit rock bottom before it starts to get better.
If it is meant to be, it is meant to be and whatever that is, it has a purpose for being.
No one is responsible for the situation you are in, there are many factors that have brought this to you. But it is your responsibility what you and your SO does with it. You can both accept it and use it as something to build upon. BPD is not a life prison sentence, it is an agreed understanding that their brain is wired differently so we need to adapt how we do things so they are kept safe.
Wish you all the very best and feel free to give me a shout if you want to talk about anything. Related to this post or not.
I'm not here to judge. Only to be human with fellow humans. ☺
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If you know other folks on the community who are under 16, let them know about this too - we're trying to grow this chat and make it more well-known. If it becomes popular, we might schedule more of them.
Over 16's are also welcome to come as listeners to support our younger members.
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Re: Check your racial bias
Has anyone watched the school that tried to end racism on channel 4 ?
They talk about already having an unconscious racial bias towards white people and showed that inna class of mix raced only 4 people out of the whole class had no/neutral bias and at the end of the second episode they take the test again so I’m intrigued to see what the results turn out like to see how the course have changed it . It’s quite an interesting watch
Re: Check your racial bias
I did black-white too, and got no automatic preference between black people and white people. I guess since I've only lived in areas where the majority are white, but my two absolutely best friends arent white maybe. I'm quite surprised by my result though but also happy.
Anxiety experience
Hey everyone. I've struggled with my anxiety for the past few years. At my worst - i could barely leave the house and would calculate how long it would take me to do daily errands. For example, needing to post a parcel at the post office. i would mentally calculate how long it would take me to walk to the post office, how long i could possibly be in the post office and then how long the walk back home would take me. Eventually convince myself to leave the house, so ... coat on, shoes on. and then i would look in the mirror and not be able to leave the house. It was such a dark and frustrating time for me as i was suffering with low self esteem.
Along this journey, i have learnt some tricks that help me deal with my anxiety and thought id share my experience and tips i've learnt for anyone else struggling.
1. MAIN CHARACTER ENERGY
Sometimes life can be so serious - soemtimes too serious. To eliminate that doom and gloom but i used to sometimes pretend that my life is a game, just to take the seriousness of everything away. I am the main character in my favourite show called MY LIFE. and once, im in this mode that its a game, if i make a mistake i can TRY AGAIN this immensely helped me. it did alleviate a lot of anxiety, fear pent up inside of me. and its just a fun way to release negative thoughts
2. SHARING MY THOUGHTS
It can be an extremely isolating experience so speaking about it with friends and family did help and took the pressure off me having to 'pretend' like everything is fine when in my mind i was freaking out
3. SPEAKING TO GP
GP have access to a wealth of resources such as counselling, useful websites. Everyone has different needs but i just think discussing with GP is important.
If anyone has any anxiety experiences or tips/tricks which have helped them please feel free to share i'm interested to know and learn lots of love
Along this journey, i have learnt some tricks that help me deal with my anxiety and thought id share my experience and tips i've learnt for anyone else struggling.
1. MAIN CHARACTER ENERGY
Sometimes life can be so serious - soemtimes too serious. To eliminate that doom and gloom but i used to sometimes pretend that my life is a game, just to take the seriousness of everything away. I am the main character in my favourite show called MY LIFE. and once, im in this mode that its a game, if i make a mistake i can TRY AGAIN this immensely helped me. it did alleviate a lot of anxiety, fear pent up inside of me. and its just a fun way to release negative thoughts
2. SHARING MY THOUGHTS
It can be an extremely isolating experience so speaking about it with friends and family did help and took the pressure off me having to 'pretend' like everything is fine when in my mind i was freaking out
3. SPEAKING TO GP
GP have access to a wealth of resources such as counselling, useful websites. Everyone has different needs but i just think discussing with GP is important.
If anyone has any anxiety experiences or tips/tricks which have helped them please feel free to share
i'm interested to know and learn lots of love Re: The Need and Want Dilemma
Gosh, I cannot begin to express how thankful I am that you have shared your story and situation with us, I cannot imagine that this was easy. You sound like such a sincerely compassionate person who deserves so much love, especially given that you're clearly putting so much love out into the world.
The fact that you were so willing to give him time, and that within that you could so clearly see how none of this changes the beautiful moments. You are beyond right about how relationships are about more than merely the 'stereotypical good times' and that it's made up of all the parts.
Once again, thank you and I wish you the utmost happiness, honestly
The fact that you were so willing to give him time, and that within that you could so clearly see how none of this changes the beautiful moments. You are beyond right about how relationships are about more than merely the 'stereotypical good times' and that it's made up of all the parts.
Once again, thank you and I wish you the utmost happiness, honestly
Re: Help me
Hi @Shaunie
Sorry to hear you are struggling. Would you like to talk about why you are feeling this way?
If you or anyone else has been affected by any of the topics discussed here, please feel free to contact Samaritans or Papyrus. I have listed their contact below in case anyone benefits from this.
Samaritans (24/7):
Call 116 123
Email jo@samaritans.org
Papyrus (2pm-midnight)
Call 0800 068 41 41
Email pat@papyrus-uk.org
Hope you are feeling better soon
Sorry to hear you are struggling. Would you like to talk about why you are feeling this way?
If you or anyone else has been affected by any of the topics discussed here, please feel free to contact Samaritans or Papyrus. I have listed their contact below in case anyone benefits from this.
Samaritans (24/7):
Call 116 123
Email jo@samaritans.org
Papyrus (2pm-midnight)
Call 0800 068 41 41
Email pat@papyrus-uk.org
Hope you are feeling better soon
Re: If you could have any power (superpower or otherwise) what would you choose and why?
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