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The concept/idea of romantic love came about in the middle ages.
So by shagging whoever i please, i have no morality, self respect or self discipline?
My life isn't some kind of punishment, i don't need to refrain from something i enjoy doing just so i can say look at me aren't i special :rolleyes:
So stories of romantic love from Ancient Greece/Rome were what ... just way ahead of their time?
That's true enough but it only highlights my point. We need the idea of structure to suit our positions within society. Our ancestors never went around getting as many girls pregnant as possible either. There was an extended family structure to them...sex however was never viewed as something taboo or trivial. It was something necessary for survival. Personally I think we're still sufferring from a hangover from the Church controlled days.
The Greek word "Eros" means 'erotic love' not 'romantic love'. There are sexual relationships between characters, but how many are faithful to their partners? Achilles for example despite having a relationship with Patroclus (a same sex relationship) could be considered 'romantic love', but that is how we perceive it. Achilles had a concubine... Zues was shagging around... Heck he even came down to earth in the form of a swan to get some.
I honestly do not believe that we would 'fall in love' if it were not there as a fantasy. I am not saying that it is a bad thing to indulge in that fantasy, but that it isn't anything magickal.
I once read in a magazine that when you're around somebody you're attracted to your brain releases chemicals that cause an effect similar to a hit of coke... I can't remember where though.
It's bio-chemical, although parental socialisation plays a part. Evidence shows how parental factors in early childhood play an important part in future relationships. For examples studies of young girls have shown those with dedicated fathers are more secure, confident in their relationships and display of a greater desire and ability to be intimate with males.
Attentive parenting results in more accessability and success with 'love' as adults, so it is evidently an inherent aspect of human psychology.
I presume you've formed this view through reading feminist literature - bad idea. The feminist mindset underplays the value and importance of 'love' because the implications otherwise negate their worldview.
The dopamine system.
From what I've read of some of Moonrats posts. Her father exactly hasn't been the greatest dad in the world. Maybe that's why she's so insecure about the whole thing.
Could be man. No personal offence intended btw Moonrat.
You can usually trace things which fuck you up back to childhood. That's a big step on the path towards self-understanding. Drugs are good for providing deeper insights into such matters once the high loses it's magic i've found...total meditative self-reflection. :yes:
If you're having fun, then there's no problem with casual sex. I always get the feeling that a lot of people aren't having fun, and are having sex in order to validate themselves, but that doesn't make the act immoral. I don't think that someone who has sex with a different person every night is doing themselves any favours, mentally or physically, but it's their body, their mind, their choice.
If you don't want to have sex yet, then that again is your body, your mind, your choice. I find the view that people who don't want to have sex are "backward" in their social development- a view stated by Turlough and Spliffie before now- deeply disturbing.
Whether or not someone has sex is a matter for them alone. "Challenging" their view on sex is not appropriate, certainly not on a website such as this with some very vulnerable young people on it.
You're not an expert on feminism are you.
I'm a happy young woman and if anything I have learnt from my childhood experiences to love and accept people more.
I'm studying a course in the Theories of Human Nature and it came up there, I also studied Classical Civilisation (which covered Ancient Greek literature and some about their culture), I have also studied psychology...
Check this person out, it makes interesting reading. Maybe I am looking too deep in to it, maybe I am leaning towards cold academic facts rather than just ignoring them and falling in to the arms of the next gentleman who walks my way...
So my opinion is unconventional, it doesn't make me messed up just because I dare to deviate from the norm does it? I'm arguing a point here... A point that couldn't be further from my own childhood.
So yeah... I am pissed off that you hit me below the belt and make a personal attack. Get your head out your arse.
I know people who have had family issues, I know survivers of rape and bullying and so on who have gone on to form happy relationships.
You don't think it's acceptable to grope and holler at women in nightclubs:)
It's because I am so messed up from my childhood see.
I know what you mean, I so feel your pain.
Your daddy left home, so you will never trust a man again. It's all his fault. You only want equality for women because your daddy didn't love you.
FEMINISM IS A MENTAL ILLNESS.
Really?
You don't think that having sex is a very real and natural instinct? Yes there maybe people with low sex drives and that's nothing but unfortunate, but people who abstain from sex simply because casual sex is 'immoral' are fools. Too worried about what others think.
If you have the urge take it. Why not?
Why are you turning this argument to fit your Feminist crusade?
And you're a hysteric.