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am i a dork if i don't have sex?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    LacyMay wrote:
    I'd say it was more of a discussion than a thinly veiled slanging match :rolleyes:

    :yes:

    Anyway I wasn't saying that I don't want sex, because I do. I have just made the decision that if I am sleeping with someone, I want to do it when I am ready, and that most likely will be in a stable relationship.

    And why would you want to shag someone if you didn't want their babies? I would not sleep with someone if I was not attracted to someone, and the reason we are attracted to the opposite sex is to have eachother's babies. But there is a difference between that and actually wanting a child, which I'm sure someone will miss. Also if there is a 'mistake' I personally would like to be sure I can deal with the consequences without having to resort to abortion.

    My opinions were not influenced by indoctrination. My parents don't mind if Im an escort, as long as I can live with the choices I make. I came to my conclusion through simple logical choices, which is cold, but the easiest way to live my life IMHO.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    I just don't understnad why people build something up to be more important than it actually is.

    It's a very real human instainct as old as nature it's self. Where does this notion that sex special come from - your parents, school, the media? In the scheme of things it's relatively a very modern concept. Why supress your desires? I think those that treat sex as such are missing out.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    talia wrote:
    And why would you want to shag someone if you didn't want their babies?

    Because it's fun? and it feels good.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    u know what im just going to simply anwser the question no your not a dork if u dont have sex
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ive waited because i dont want to regret it simple as. Ive regretted a hell of a lot of other things, being pushed further than i wanted at a younger age and so on but this I do not. Waiting for someone who actually wants me not just a random shag. (Though things are going well at the moment and it looks like ive found said person im willing to do the deed with given some time)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My question is, how are all these people going to know your a virgin or not?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Renzo wrote:
    So I'm a freak for not shagging someone who turned out to be a complete whore? I'd rather lose it to my girlfriend* than to a random thanks.

    *Why yes, yes I do have a girlfriend

    Wise up renzo!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Randomgirl wrote:
    The first time I had sex was special.

    Well good for you...for 90% of use it was meaningless fun...who cares ya only live once eh?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorry but reading though this thread has made me realise something now more than ever.

    I fucking depsise people who take the moral highground...yeh so what if you choose not to have sex but don't think you're some God/Godess over it! Get over yourselves! :cool: I'm sooooooooooooooo cooooooool yah yah yah :cool: :cool: :cool:

    Does anyone spot the irony?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Since when does not having sex make you think your better than others though? Never gotten that impression.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    my_name wrote:
    Since when does not having sex make you think your better than others though? Never gotten that impression.

    I've constantly got the impression that celibate people on this forum tihnk they're some sort of brilliant people because they can resist the temptation of sex and that we should admire them for their feats! :rolleyes: Well fuck that...i chose to deny that and I don't see any reasons why people should stay celibate except for religious or low sex drive reasons....otherwise...they're hiding something (this is for 16 and overs of course ;) )
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Renzo wrote:
    Ive waited because i dont want to regret it simple as.

    Is it not better to regret the things you did, rather than regret the things you didn't do. College and uni are the best times to experience casual sex.
    Do you not worry the the window for having fun is passing you by?

    I'm glad I've had my fun when I did because later on I want to settle down, get a proper missus and maybe have kids.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote:
    Is it not better to regret the things you did, rather than regret the things you didn't do. College and uni are the best times to experience casual sex.
    Do you not worry the the window for having fun is passing you by?

    I'm glad I've had my fun when I did because later on I want to settle down, get a proper missus and maybe have kids.

    I definintely think it's better to experience all that early on.

    I'd personally hate to get older then suddenly realise i'd missed out.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    1. what do i need to wise up to?
    2. Im only 19, plenty of time left. Uni isnt all about shagging, my time here has been totally valuable and worth it with all the OTHER experiences ive had.
    3. To some it might be "meaningless fun" but i havnt got to that stage. Trust me if i had taken the opportunities i'd had i would have regretted it.

    I bet it makes you guys feel so big trying to make be feel like some weirdo :rolleyes:

    ETA: Ive only been vaguely confident with girls since coming to uni anyway, beforehand i wouldnt have even beleived i could have done it. Its not all shagging you know.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Randomgirl wrote:
    I've only had sex with one person. I want to stay with him forever and have his babies. When we are together the sex is fucking awesome :thumb: I don't need to sleep with anyone else to know that.


    with all due respect, how can you possibly say 'this man gives me the BEST sex i could ever have?'. if you've only had sex with him then you can't possibly compare him to anyone else can you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The pressure that people on this forum put Renzo under to lose his virginity is horrible. It's through his strength of character that he's able to tolerate it. He has said explicitly he's got plenty of time and that sex is not the only thing in the world to savour and enjoy. I would not be able to tolerate this sort of pressure. Rest assured if I was meeting up with friends, and they pressured me like this, I would have told them very clearly where to go.

    Those of you who pressure others to lose their virginity - stop it. I'm getting sick of this intolerance. You may well subscribe to a culture where you must lose your V-plates as early as possible, but thankfully, some of us have more sense. You talk about individual choice and freedom, yet condemn anyone who refuses to have sex early and often. Live and let live. :mad:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    it makes the world go round! :D :yippe:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:
    The pressure that people on this forum put Renzo under to lose his virginity is horrible. It's through his strength of character that he's able to tolerate it. He has said explicitly he's got plenty of time and that sex is not the only thing in the world to savour and enjoy. I would not be able to tolerate this sort of pressure.

    Those of you who pressure others to lose their virginity - stop it. I'm getting sick of this intolerance. You may well subscribe to a culture where you must lose your V-plates as early as possible, but thankfully, some of us have more sense. Live and let live. :mad:

    No ones putting any pressure on Renzo to lose his virginity. I doubt he got offline yesterday and thought ooh must shag someone cos the people on thesite told me to :rolleyes:

    We were simply challenging his views on virginity. Nothing more.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its a tricky thing. Its all personall choice I guess. It can be good or bad. It can be with a stranger or some1 special. Guess there is no right and wrongs really.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Walkindude wrote:
    Its a tricky thing. Its all personall choice I guess. It can be good or bad. It can be with a stranger or some1 special. Guess there is no right and wrongs really.

    At last someone who is talkin some sense
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote:

    Those of you who pressure others to lose their virginity - stop it. I'm getting sick of this intolerance. You may well subscribe to a culture where you must lose your V-plates as early as possible, but thankfully, some of us have more sense. You talk about individual choice and freedom, yet condemn anyone who refuses to have sex early and often. Live and let live. :mad:

    You've just claimed people who wait "have more sense" which defeats your entire argument, justifies what you're moaning about and illustrates Turlough's point perfectly.

    :no: :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Renzo wrote:
    1. what do i need to wise up to?
    2. Im only 19, plenty of time left. Uni isnt all about shagging, my time here has been totally valuable and worth it with all the OTHER experiences ive had.
    3. To some it might be "meaningless fun" but i havnt got to that stage. Trust me if i had taken the opportunities i'd had i would have regretted it.

    I bet it makes you guys feel so big trying to make be feel like some weirdo :rolleyes:

    ETA: Ive only been vaguely confident with girls since coming to uni anyway, beforehand i wouldnt have even beleived i could have done it. Its not all shagging you know.

    If it's a confidence thing, i don't think anyone's going to have a go at about that. It's no sex as morality which gets on people's tits.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think its fine to have casual sex, its just my choice not to. And did any one say that they were abstaining from sex for moral reasons?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    talia wrote:
    I think its fine to have casual sex, its just my choice not to. And did any one say that they were abstaining from sex for moral reasons?

    Who knows. I'm not about to trawl through 10 pages to find out!

    Surely if someone abstains because they are waiting for the right person, and do not wanna shag about, that's a moral reason? Cos they think shagging about is bad?

    I don't really know what moral means!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    LacyMay wrote:
    I don't really know what moral means!
    No two definitions of morality are the same. No two people have the same definition.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Moral:
    Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character: moral scrutiny; a moral quandary.
    Teaching or exhibiting goodness or correctness of character and behavior: a moral lesson.
    Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior; virtuous: a moral life.
    Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong: a moral obligation

    Moral applies to personal character and behavior, especially sexual conduct

    taken from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=moral
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    your-babe wrote:
    What about if one (or both) of the people aren't ready? Does that still make them a freak, or fuck knows whatever else people have said on this thread? Ouch... i'm confused.

    Ready for what though? It's a natural human instinct to have sex.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    your-babe wrote:
    Ready to have sex. I'm only just starting to, because of other problems in my life (most of them are aired by myself in the health forum), only just found a balance within myself, and only now am I starting to feel ready to have sex with him, was never really ready before. Also, other factors stopped me, eg: contraception.

    Social conditioning has got us this far ya c!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    your-babe wrote:
    What do you mean by social conditioning?

    It's pretty obvious we've conditioned ourselves to ignore our natural instincts in return for social issues.

    "Waiting till the right moment"

    "Don't want to look like a slag"

    "Don't believe in sex before marriage"

    Our ancestors were at it like rabbits. What do you think the purpose of living is? To live and reproduce...same with all animals.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with StarGalaxy on Lacymay's very controversial opinion - or is it really controversial? Everyone seems to agree with her - or at least the majority here.

    Our ancestors were at it like rabbits? Hold on a minute - not all of them. Ok, there are religious people, you get me on that. However, I feel that the atheists/agnostics nowadays are more blatant, if you see what I mean. They display their thoughts more conspicuously.

    "Just fuck around, man!" is the motto I hear every day. I feel depressed now.

    There's nothing immoral with having sex, but blatantly shouting out: "Hey, enjoy, fucking 'round is the meaning of life!" IS, which is where my opinion lies on the matter.

    Ding-dong! You are pressuring Renzo, or at least I think you are. Show some decency and respect.

    Also, you folks actually managed to change my opinion on this.
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