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We're 'tough on drugs' yet they get into the country by the ton and havent been cheaper.
You would have to throw mulitpule billions at boarder security and even then I suggest it would make next to no impact. The cost of this would easily be more than the savings.
Yeh and from what ethnic minority were they?
We're tough on drugs in the UK? Don't make me laugh. Sweden has a Zero Tolerance drugs policy and even that I dont think is tough enough. The UK is just pathetic. Your liberal view of tough means nothing.
Yes, we have to increase spending on border patrols. The Army should be more productively involved. The crucial aspect is to be militarily ruthless on the borders, and why the hell not?
"I suggest it would make next to no impact" What you suggest or not is your own business, what we actually put into practise in order to reduce illegal immigration is ours.
I havent said that. I merely asked a question
Lets take Thailand as an example then, they are tough on drugs, with excutions etc yet the whole country is a wash with drugs. But again thats slightly off topic.
The impact upon trade of virtualy closing down our boarders would be just plain nuts. The economic cost would be varst. And what do you think it would do to our international image? Do you think pictures of immigrants being hunted down like pests would help in the fight against terrorism?
Most paedophiles are white and Christian. All Irish terrorists are also white and Christian. As are most football hooligans. Or East End gangsters. Or fraudsters.
In fact, it seems that white Christians are responsible for a whole range of crimes. Should we watch out for them then? Stop those who want to come to this country, kick out those who are already here?
Your prejudice and double standards regarding crime smell of racism.
:rolleyes:
Militarising the borders is the best idea I've ever heard. Ofcourse it'll effect the import of goods, to an extent, but It'll give the people of Britain peace of mind that illegal terrorist immigrants aren't entering the country, and the immigrants who enter the UK legally peace of mind that they went through the system and their endeavour to do so was not done in vain because the people who tried to abuse the system got caught and punished.
To Alladin, I withdraw my earlier question on ethnic minority because it is irrelevant to my point. Which is incidently, reduced leniency on immigrant applications, and tougher punishments for illegal immigrants and terrorists of any race, colour, creed, culture, nationality, tradition.
That and the type of protectionist economic sitation it would create would be illegal by world trade laws.
i've come to the conclusion you're insane.
Good for you, I've come to the conclusion that you're a pathetic liberal just like the rest of them.
Bongbudda, you said that it would make us look bad to the rest of the world. Who exactly are you afraid of it looking bad to?
If you are so proud of this country then surely you would like others to see it as a place that you could indeed be proud of.
And, you term is 'liberals' as though this is some sort of insult, it doesnt matter how many times you say it, it makes no difference to either this debate or any of us.
:eek2:
i think that's the first time anyone of here's called me a liberal
Provided that they goosestep?
Dude your etnire argument has failed because you cannot support anything which are saying with any credible proff. Your example of a terrorist is, as you admit, a British citizen. Crime is committed by all races, not just illegal immigrants. Hospital wards are opulated by all.
Really, what actual reason can you think of as to why immigration you should enforced at a higher level than it is already?
Ahhhh...the deserving and undeserving poor. How Victorian of you. :rolleyes:
Can you please justify why some people should have rights and others shouldn't?
Errrr...no it quite clearly hasn't. Do you want me to quote you?
stopped listening to trance yet?
You seem to think that you can tell who is here illegally just by looking at them? Are you some kind of superhero?
I'll leave the quotes there. Just suffice to say, that you seem a tad confused.
Yeah, like David Copeland. :rolleyes:
Give it up, with every post you show yourself to be more and more ignorant.
Come on then, lets discuss drugs policy
*rubs hands together in glee, looking forward to slaughtering you again*
I'll start - zero tolerance and the "war on drugs" makes the situation worse.
Discuss.
About a 1000 years ago there was a massive wave of immigration as the Normans invaded, conquered and supressed the British people.
Can you now spot someone descended from a norman from someone descended from a celt? Are there Norman Ghettoes do they have a different culture?
No
The only difference now is that the immigrants have different colour skin.
I beleiev that like the Normans and all the other immigrants who have come to the isles over the years (ie everyone who has ever lived here) the current wave of immigrants will fit in nicely in the LR
It isn't the most technologically advanced, the US and Japan are more so in more areas than the Europeans.
The US is the richest nation in the world and it is a nation fundamentally founded on immigration, think about it..........
'Culturally advanced' is probably a meaningless term........
Blagsta has been debating this for absolutely ages.
I think the reponse was fully justified given the continuing absurdity of giant's comments and the fact that he will not answer the questions Blagsta had put to him or that I have put to him and the others supporting him.
Do you never react with laughter to what someone has put?
Those naughty left-wingers, they don't like people who are rascists, 'thought-clamped'
Are you a rascist then, do you like rascists? Would you support rascist views?
Go for it mate, I would love to see you try and defend it.
This may challenge your earlier post as the stuoidest I have ever seen, you really are pushing the boundaries! :eek:
Think:
- British empire the largest the world has ever seen, is it a coincidence that most immigrants in the post war period come from former colonial nations, is it a coincidence that most immigrants into France come from former French colonies?
- English is the no.1 international language
- England is the 4th largest economty in the world and currently doing very well.
Of course I do but not make a post full of it........at least I hope I haven't because some smart arse will find it if I have
In the same position myself I would have quit the debate anyway because its obvious Gianto is aint really listening to what he is saying, i just cant see the point in him continuing it when as you say Gianto is not answering the questions anyway.
But I'm enjoying seeing him making a fool out of himself.
ah right, I will shut up.......carry on
Come on then brainiac, show me where I've made a fool of myself.
You have a different political opinion to Giant and you try and put him down by mocking him, wonder if you would be so brave to say it to his face, doubt it somehow.
Thats where you make the fool of yourself, you claim he is ignorant, yet you do exactly the same and believe you are justify.
You are a joker. full stop.