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How is our current system like National Socialism?
Eminently sensible words if I may say so NQA. Totally agree. Why does there have to be this constant ideological battle when working together for the common good is best.
It tires to keep some socialist principles - state control of some things, whilst it wants to privatise other things. I did actually think it more like "Conservative Socialism" once again, two contrasting things.
A mix of two systems doesn't work - hence the mess we are in. The NHS is a prime example - a public-owned service having to use private cleaners and caterers. The state wants more law and order, furthur empowering our legal system as well. Whilst ranting on about civil liberties another time.
What the hell is going on?
Labour are a capitalist party, there is nothing "socialist" or "national socialist" (
(a) what has that got to do with National Socialism?
(b) Labour are in the process of privatising everything
Which was due to a government (can't remember if it was the tories or Labour) out sourcing cleaning to private companies.
Smokescreens, propaganda, disinformation to confuse the public and power struggles and disagreement in the government. Politics in other words.
Does society have any other choice than capitalism?
I am asking for an opinion and you reply with insultant remarks, perhaps you are talking shit and cannot walk the talk eh?
Enjoy your new arsehole. :wave:
No doubt you're under the illusion that capitalism is the pinnacle of human advancement and there's no feasible alternative...
Though how exactly people can believe capitalism works for the benefit of humanity is beyond me.
There is choice - the US (and UK) gov't just has a habit of eliminating groups who offer it.
I have no problem wahtsoever with that. Just thought I'd share that one with you.
Eliminate?? How? And who?
Could humanity survive and progress without fiscal policy and monetary function?
Obviously, yes.
We managed for thousands and thousands of years without it.
I oppose with way the current system works - wealthy elite, impoverished minority and all that it entails. That doesn't mean I necessarily believe we should abolish monetary function though.
There are genuine alternatives. The case for socialism is strong, it always has been. Of course you'll disagree, but I doubt the viability of socialism is something you've objectively researched.
No problem with what?
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The Indonesian PKI is a prime example of the US, UK and Aussie governments eliminating a progressive and forward-looking political movement through funding and assisting mass murder. There are many other examples of US violence, manipulation and corruption to prevent valid (and often democratically supported) alternatives to global capital, even in Western Europe. As Blagsta would say, go and do some reading (John Pilger would be my personal suggestion).
We also managed without anti-biotics and contraceptives? Hardly a killer argument is it.
Proabably the most immoral practise in existence, the cause of unemployment, social deprivation and the reason house prices are so ridiculously high.
Also the cause of inflation and taxation, so not a lot to be said for it, tbh.
You've lost me. You also appear to have lost yourself. Have you actaully been following this thread?
We managed for thousands of years. What makes you think that capitalism isn't just another stage of economic development?
Not at issue. The question should be : Could a modern, industrial, technological society be run without a free market and democratic institutions?
I think not.
The two are mutually contradictory.
Its no coincidence that democracy develops as free markets take hold in countries. You only need to look at the history of France after the revolution, the UK in the 19th century with the expanding franchise and the United States with its history of both working togeather hand in hand.