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Ah, so all the people at risk are flocking to you, along with all the safest LSD. No wonder the worlds researchers haven't been able to find them.
Yes, the risk is low, but you seem to think that there are *no* risks - this is not true. All drugs carry risks. As I said - go and chat to your local dual diagnosis team.
What on earth are you on about now? Have you read anything here?
I said there are risks, I went into detail about what the risks are, just one post before this is I said there are risks. Now you're saying I think there are NO risks?
Do you want me to quote you?
You appear to be saying that shrooms are only harmful to people with pre-existing mental health problems or to people with no common sense. I am arguing that, while shrooms carry relatively low risks, to approach them with the attitude that you seem to, is naive and a bit stupid.
Ok, now even ignoring the fact I've said there are risks countless times since that quote, go back just 1 page and you'll see I wrote this:
Saying I think there are no risks at all at this point is whats stupid.
:banghead:
Its more your attitude.
just swallow it ...
Coming from the person who keeps saying there are some risks when we already know, then getting frustrated because you cant back up things you post?
Whatever. :rolleyes:
I base my opnions on over 15 years of drug use and over 2 years of working for a drug service. Yes, drugs can be a lot of fun, but they can also be a lot more damaging than you seem to think. Be careful.
Hopefully we're all happy.
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I agree that the risks are relatively low in comparison with a lot of other drugs. You however seem to think that the risks only apply to people with obviously pre-existing mental health problems - this is not true ime. They pose low but serious risks to anyone. Now this does not mean that I think they should be Class A or indeed illegal at all (I've already stated my position on legalising drugs). However I think there needs to be more honesty on both sides of the debate. The "criminalise drugs" lobby need to be more honest with their assessment of risks and social harm, but the legalise lobby also need to be honest, in fact I think they have the duty to be scrupulously honest, more so than the criminalise lot. This means honestly appraising the risks of drug taking and not making idiotic analogies with kitchen knives for instance.
I agree with most of that. Theres little if any evidence as far as I know to suggest someone with no obvious pre-existing mental health problems is at risk, but we wont always know what goes on in someone elses head so of course there will be exceptions and it could unlock some underlayng problem. I'd call those people mentally unstable because it's already there and could happen at any time.
What's your problem mate?
Yes, drugs can be fun and for most people present no serious problems - but please don't underplay the risks - they are very real, no matter how low they are. That's all really.
Werent you saying earlier that the government didnt know what it was talking about?
Mushrooms are just as able to create 'alarming' hallucinations as LSD is, the main difference between the two is the length of the action of LSD.
Hallucinations can be alarming on shrooms too but it's the lasting effects that come with LSD, which it what I've personally found with them too. Any hallucinogen will affect your visual perception but they can still be different.
LSD is just as dangerous to some, as mushies is to others, they have differences but in terms of their dangers they are very similar if they are not treated with respect.