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everyone is entitled to an oppinion, its when people persistantly try and force their views onto others and try to make you think like them that it gets on my tits.
To be pro life means that you think women shouldnt be allowed to have abortions - right?
Is there an universal pro-life view, or do different people understand it differently?
What do you say it is?
Yes it is. It's anti-choice.
"pro-life"? What does that mean? That people who are in favour of choice are anti-life?
:rolleyes: READ! For a change give someone the basic respect of actually reading their posts. I'm fully fed-up, you're not worth it, how can you say that pro-life is automatically anti-any choice, just because that's the noisiest section, and then rip me up suggesting that people fighting for the 'right' to choose are anti-life. It's bullshit, and so are 90% of your posts.
But the second you attempt to impose those belief upon others (which is practically what 100% of pro-life organisations do, always looking at ways to limit or even better stop others from having abortions) then it becomes wrong. Very, very wrong.
If you are pro-life, you can prefer that in an IDEAL situation, an abortion wouldn't occur. it does not mean that you are anti-choice, but that'd you'd encourage and prefer the mother not to take the abortion route.
Blagsta, in your quote there, you have just completely destroyed your "pro-lifers are anti choice" comments. If you can say that, then we can say that pro-choice are anti-life. After all, if there are prolifers/antichoicers, there should surely be an opposite?
That is not what pro-life means to most people. Pro-life = anti-choice to most people.
Assuming that it is a binary opposition, yes. It isn't though is it? Pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion does it?
again, you've just destroyed your arguement there: that people do not have to be pro-abortion to be pro-choice. hence why you can also see that people who are pro-life can also be pro-choice.
No. All groups who campaign on pro-life issues state that they would see abortion banned.
No, its nothing like it at all.
OK, maybe you are using a different defintion of pro-life than everyone else.
Ahem
ETA: Same reference as Blagsta
You believe to a greater or lesser extent that abortion is acceptable or you believe that in no circumstances is it acceptable.
If at any point you believe abortion to be an acceptable outcome then you are pro-choice. If not you are pro-life.
Although myself I think the term pro-life is wrong. A mother who is going to die if she sees the pregnancy through to labour does not have a life choice. She has to make a choice involving “death”.
The issue is fundamentally complex but you can separate in into two groups
I'll assume that's not what you meant
So having the opinion (for example) that Hitler was right, isn't wrong?
as long as you have the evidence to back it up...i mean if hitler died in 1938 he'd probably be a German national hero.
a) Abortion is acceptable in any circumstance
b) Abortion is acceptable in certain circumstances (eg rape, fetal abnormality)
c) Abortion is never acceptable
You can be a (c) for yourself and still be prochoice and for that reason prolife doesn't automatically mean antichoice.
I do see the problems with (b) but a child conceived through rape may be treated differently by the partner of the rapee, so that is the argument I suppose. Not to mention the fact that the child will be a continuous reminder for the woman of that rape.
So I think all three are valid opinions. I think we'd all disagree with Christian Voice's chosen method in attempting to reduce the abortion rate though.