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I thought we'd settled this. Having an opinion is not wrong, but I can think that the opinion itself is wrong.
well does that not make your agument flawed to a degree...and what does living independently form the mother entail exactly?
And what do you believe is suitible 'defense'?
Just wondering is all.
but is that not an opinion on it's own therefore open to it's own criticism?
violence is an intricle part of our lives... i don't care how much we're told about peace and all that and being civilised...humans are inherintly violent to a degree...it sounds so out-dated and mystic like but there are traits within humanity well i believe so and i believe it's unhealthy to live your life supressing these traits which we all have...why do you think so many people go out every weekend and get pissed and shout...why so many people go to the gym...do boxing...others just keep it in...let the violence out i say.
I don't think people have the right to tell anyone what to do with their body and until evidence comes through that a foetus is sentient, I stand by my opinion.
B and C are one and the same. Different ends of the same wedge.
You are advocating abortion under certain conditions which still makes you pro-choice.
I found your point about finding abortion unacceptable under any circumstance yet accepting other people's right to choose interesting. If you were fundamentally opposed to abortion then would it be possible to fully respect someone else’s choice to terminate? Just pondering.
It is a massively individual choice, which is what makes the debate interesting and frustrating at the same time.
This i found to be an interesting read on the topic.
i bought one in the economy section of sainsburys just yesterday...
If you believe that an the zygote, embryo, fetus, baby has the potential for life, or is a life, also raises different issues.
Do you believe that life starts at the moment of conception?
I don't think that the three categories in anyway represent everyone's opinion of abortion at all. I think it would be quite naive to assume that.
For instance my own stand point on abortion differs from the aforementioned 3.
I don't believe that abortion is fine in every case. Especially when used as a late form of contraception. I do believe however that the case doesn't have to be as extreme as the mother's life been threatened for an abortion to be an acceptable choice.
When people talk of independent life outside the womb, its not the same thing as a disabled person who could live independently with the right facilities and help. An embryo couldnt live independently of its mothers womb with ALL the help in the world. Once you get to the stage where it could possibly survive on its own (with help) then the situation becomes more complicated.
Ok I see where you're coming from. When do you believe a pregnancy begins then?
I'm enjoying this reasoned discussion, i don't want you to think that I’m disagreeing with your views, I’m just curious.
Its not a baby unless you want it to be.
Fair play, i was a little thrown by the rape and fetal abnormality examples. I don't believe that the case has to be as extreme as rape. Fetal abnormality is harder. It would depend to what extent the foetus was abnomal.
What do you mean it's not a baby unless you want it to be?