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* If the mother doesnt want it and the father does, then thats too bad. I feel sorry for the man in that position, but its the womans choice. Its unreasonable to expect a woman to gestate a baby she doesnt want because someone else wants her to.
* If the mother wants it but the father doesnt, they need to talk about it, but ultimately its the womans womb, so she has the final word.
* Im not defining life by whether its wanted or not. Im not even saying life is sacred. Every cell of the body is "life" and theyre dying and reproducing all the time. The complete embryo isnt a life on its own though. Its still part of the mother and shes got as much right to get rid of it as she has to get her appendix removed (which is also life)
Funny how that isn't an issue when maintenence is claimed...
And you just did define life by whether it was wanted or not: "Its not a baby unless you want it to be". Unless a baby isn't a life, and then I'm thoroughly confused.
Until a foetus is actually born, its a foetus - not a baby. We call it a baby because its a cutesie name and it makes us feel closer to the foetus and its recognising what we will have when its born.
I think you are using the term "independent" to mean walking talking and feeding itself, whereas im talking about being capable of living (albeit with help and care) outside of its maternal womb.
My feelings on abortion change when youre talking about a foetus that is viable outside of the womb.
Before that stage I see it as an extension of the mother. Im not disregarding how pregnant mothers feel about their "babies" FAR before viability, but after viability is when I start to see it as a real baby.
It is a complex issue.
How to disempower women in one easy step.
Our clinic is linked with a magazine (I think it's Cosmo) for an update in the law. One of the many proposed changes is that doctors who object to abortion must make it known. I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing a pro-life doctor under any circumstances.
Tis. HSA1 is the blue/white form needing 2 doctors sigs, and requires one of the letters A - E to be circled indicating the reasons for the abortion.
HSA2 is the yellow booklet which is for the Department of Health
and guess who gets to do all the lovely admin for both?
When I went for my termination and had to be examined one of the male doctors made me feel like a piece of shit . I mentioned Id rather be seen by a female doctor and he said whats the point, it looks like youve already been seen by a man anyway.
Doctors should be impartial, and if theyre not, then theyre not the best person for that particular job.
You should have put in a complaint about him. He sounds like a tosser.
I'd second that, I know it was long ago, but what an insensitive thing to say, and an awful attitude to have.
hehe, makes me feel good when a doctor comes up to me, asking me to check their work over
the downside is dropping bottles of peepee samples :nervous: