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If you're lucky.
yes but it's tuesday.
Ok...any other detractors want to say anything before the real debate gets under way?
What possible debate could we have ffs?
Dude, STFU.
Oh right, these boards aren't for debate - they're for jokes and circle-jerks.............
I believe your position was -um ................. flirting with Kermit .......
Mine is more along of the lines of bring him to trial, present the evidence, allow him a defence and let the jury decide.
Although if the jury reads the same tabloids you and your mates do, then he aint going to be getting any justioce, is he?
I don't read tabloids, and not everything on this forum has to be the uberserious. It is assumed, and fairly, that in this country he will get a fair trial, by an impartial as possible jury and punish, if found guilty, but an impartial and professional judge. But hey if you want to make unfounded personal comments about my relationship with kermit and my choice of newspaper go ahead, you're harming no-one reputation but your own.
You know the mind of everyone that reads these boards then?
As for claiming that it is assumed that trials in this country are fair .......................................ARE YOU MAD?
And I'll worry about my own reputation if that's okay with you
Well I guess one's opinion on trials in this coutry is dependent upon how much underground left-wing tripe they read, isn't it?
Is that right?
I gained mine by sitting in courts and watching the great wheels turn...............
Do you know what a tabloid is, or what?
Ok, well, just to check with you, the Daily telegraph? the Independent? the Guardian? BBC news online? Do any of those count?
do keep up.
What, being able to read? Or having standards...
Are you gender specific morrocan Roll?
Well, clearly you didn't because you typed 'he'.
If found guilty, he should suffer.
Do you have any thoughts on the original poster's point(s) morrocan?
Don't be shy now.
tampons?
*grins* human women?
Anyway, on that note I'm off to bed. g'night rolly
See ya in a bit
Don't be so quick in dismissing freethepeeps. He has a point. Regardless of whether the cries to send Hamza to the US to be executed or perhaps to the torture camp of Guantanamo to 'suffer' were tongue-in-cheek or not, most of you have here completely ignored the concept of presumption of innocence and have indeed taken the role of jury, judge and executioner.
Because unless you all work for MI6 and have access to intelligence the rest of us don't have, these charges are new and the only thing Hamza has been known to do before is to stir shit. So how come do you all know that he was a terrorist and a murderer all along and that he deserves to suffer, be tortured and/or executed?
No one is saying he's a nice man and that he doesn't deserve this. I think I speak on behalf of all including freethepeeps (though he can correct me if I'm wrong) when I say the bloke's a complete dickhead.
But given the present climate of scare mongering, and given the shameful subordination to the Americans our government has subjected itself to, and given the campaign of hatred waged by the tabloid press, and given the near-fascist state we live in where people can now be detained without being charged and without access to a lawyer for years on end... given all that, can any of you categorically say that you have no concerns whatsoever the charges might be fabricated and politically motivated?
Well? Can you?
And remember, whether the bloke is a complete twat (which he is) should not come into consideration…
God saves us all if we've reached the point where presumption of innocence is no longer granted and where the tabloid press and foreign powers take over our judicial system.
do try a little hardetr to understand.