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No no i understood that bit, i just dnt understand why he said it. What did he mean by it? what is the streiotype for them?
If only mentally-ill people commit attrocious crimes such as rape, abduction and murder then why are normal prisons full of people like this? Why not send them all to mental institutes? Surely this will help them more than being sent to prisons where they'll get ridiculed and abused daily?
And again I say: what about the Washington sniper? Or the Oklahoma bomber?
The US has ahd the death penalty since the eyar dot, and it is well publicised that it does- hell, theres several forests in Amnesty's back catalogue about it.
It diodnt stop some guy shooting people at petrol stations though. Ergo, the "deterrent" argument is rubbish.
And as, again, the US proves that death row is more expensive, the "emptying prisons" argument is rubbish.
Keep trying to justify it, its amusing.
Actually I'm not. I don't mean full blown disgusting experiments, but if there's DNA evidence to back up that somebody's done something then they can shortern their life sentence by allowing drugs to be tested on them...
Well I'm not 100% sure that I'd seriously re-enforce it... just an idea.
Middle class liberal do-gooders who know nothing about real life.
So you don't think that everyone should have equal rights?
Not someone who's raped numerous women, murdered numerous people, abducted numerous children or committed numerous terrorist acts.
Once they have commited a serious offence then they should not be treat as equals. Why should a murderer have the same rights as me ?
So now your saying basic rights ? The two are different thats all.
Also a murderer will get no respect from me.
So lets assume someone murdered my Husband you want me to give the murderer respect ? Gawd you really are having a laugh...............arent you ?
As I say basic rights and equal rights are two different things, so tell me which one we are discussing.
No you are missing my point, a person who murdered my hubby will get not one ounce of respect from me, in any way, shape or form.
I would not want the murderer given the death penalty, Id want them to suffer just like I would be. Id want them to suffer like my Daughter would, you know she wouldnt have a Daddy no more. Id want the murderer to be in prison for a very long time, I would not want him to be allowed early release. I would want him to have to watch his back whilst in prison. Id want him to feel what its like to be afraid of wether the other inmates are going to lash out at him.
If he took a life then he pays the price, if he cant do the time then dont do the crime.
oops this is all hypothetically, just in case there is any confusion here.
Yea right.
Ok , fair comment.
What about when someone has been beaten to death in a vicious attack, the attacker never gave one thought to the victims right to NOT be tortured or their right to live, they went ahead and done it.
So then why should the offender have the right to not be tortured ? (not that I agree with full blown torture, make them suffer but not torture).
Never heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right"?
As I said I didnt agree with it, was merely questioning it further.
Do you realise that its not actually like that in prison.
Ive spoken to a fair amount of people who have been in various different prisons and they say that murders tend to get respect fromt he other inmates. TBH the only one that have to watch their backs are the weak ones, and child abusers.
There is, as they say, "a code amongst thieves" and in prison that amounts to two areas of crime that guarantee an inmate will be targetted pdq... Any crime against a child and any crime against a mother (one's own or anyone elses).
In the prison where I worked, they kept all sex offenders separated from general population for just that reason. The guys who had harmed a mother, however, in any way other than sexually (murder, brutality, etc.) weren't so lucky.
But who would decide how much torture warranted torture? The victim? The victims family? An independent adjudicator?
If a guy is in prison he is being punished for his crimes. End of story.
But is he really ? If prison was that bad why do so many re-offend ?
I knew that sex offenders were tagetted in prison, but I have also heard stories about others having to watch their back also. Still im of the opinion if someone has done a terrible crime let them be scared shitless in there, they didnt think about the person they were killing or terrorising was petrified did they.
Anyone who harms children deserves all they get in all honesty.
Depends what crime you're on about. But in the case of people who are offending to fund a drug habit, its usually because they receive no support on release. Even if they have cleaned up inside, most people tend to relapse on release.
With others, crime is all they've known their whole lives, prison s normal to them, they've been institutionalised.
Others still have suffered extreme poverty or abuse in their lives and are using drugs and crime as an escape.
And others are just stupid.