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Having a parent who hoards

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  • amy02amy02 Moderator Posts: 394 Listening Ear
    So sorry to hear @AnonymousToe I can't imagine the weight this must put on you <3 We are all here for you
  • eylaheylah Posts: 5,826 Part of The Furniture
    hugs toe hope your ok i care abt you <3.
    keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you. 🤍

    pfp made by @Chloe234 ❤️
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    My mum is looking for something so there are things falling everywhere and she’s shouting and swearing at it and demanding I take things off her immediately. It sounds like nothing but it’s hard. I hate the demands 😭
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    I’m scared. Something happened that I probably shouldn’t share with anyone and fuck. Nobody’s been hurt or anything. Everything is fine but it was like a warning I suppose and now I’m just filled with dread. I can’t have it get any worse than this. Oh fuck I hate this so so much 😭 It wasn’t really that bad but it could have been if I wasn’t paying attention, and it only happened because of the hoard. I hope this makes my mum do something. Anything. I won’t be here much longer (going to uni) but it doesn’t feel right leaving my sister here. It’s so hard
  • EmLizEmLiz Moderator, Staff Posts: 50 Boards Initiate
    edited September 2024
    @AnonymousToe I'm so sorry you experienced something really scary but I'm glad no one was hurt <3 Just to say that you're totally valid to feel this way. Can I ask why you feel you shouldn't share it with anyone? Would you find it helpful to feel able to talk more about the situation?

    I also definitely hear you when you say it doesn't feel right to be leaving right now. But hopefully a bit of space will be a positive for you, and you'll still be able to be there for your sister emotionally when and if she does need you. Sometimes we think physically being there is as important as emotional support, but I would guess that having you as someone who empathises and understands is an important thing that brings comfort, and that won't change.

    I think it's often really common to maybe feel a sense of guilt when your own situation changes, so please try not beat yourself up about that as going to uni is a huge thing in itself to celebrate.
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    There are loads of rules about keeping things clean in our uni accommodation but they just say to keep things ‘acceptable’ but I don’t know what’s normal. I’m scared I’ll accidentally break the rules because I’m used to living in a disgusting environment
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    My sister is being horrible to me, there’s not even space for me in the house right now and she’s judging me and laughing at me for every fucking thing I do. I’m a big mess rn because I leave for uni really really soon and I don’t even know how to feel. Nobody cares and everything is about my sister because she’s ill, which is kind of alright but I don’t know why she has to be horrible to me. It’s so hard 😭
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 1,502 Extreme Poster
    sending hugs @AnonymousToe
  • EmLizEmLiz Moderator, Staff Posts: 50 Boards Initiate
    hey @AnonymousToe I’m really sorry to hear you’re dealing with all of this right now. It sounds like such a tough situation with your sister and everything going on at home.

    For your uni place, moving into a new environment can definitely take some readjusting with new rules and expectations (and dw that will be the case for everyone, although I understand why you feel more worried about that side of things). It’s totally normal for everyone to go through a bit of a trial-and-error phase as you all get used to each other’s habits and figure out what “acceptable” means for everyone. Have you met your housemates yet? Once you’re all settled, it might be helpful for you all to have a casual chat about how you’ll handle house things together. In my experience these things naturally come up when living with new people.

    And I’m really sorry to hear about how things are with your sister. It must be so hard to be dealing with her behaviour on top of everything else. How are you holding up? Do you have anyone you can talk to about this, or maybe a friend who you trust?

    As always we're here if you need to chat more or need any advice. You don’t have to go through this alone.
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    Lost something really important in the hoarded living room and my mum just says, ‘well, if your room was tidier then this wouldn’t have happened’. Last time I remember seeing this thing was in my mum’s hand. This is such a fucking disaster
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    My mum put it somewhere. It’s found now
  • eylaheylah Posts: 5,826 Part of The Furniture
    My mum put it somewhere. It’s found now

    oh that’s gd how are things now? <3
    keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you. 🤍

    pfp made by @Chloe234 ❤️
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    I really want to go home, but not to this. Apparently it’s worse than it was when I left for uni. I don’t want to go back to it. I want someone to take care of me (because I’m so bad at it) and I want to be somewhere that feels like home. But I don’t really have a home anymore. I have my uni room or a hoard to live in. I want it to get better, but nobody cares except me. It’s been about a year since I begged my parents to do something and my dad said they really would this time.
    Well they really fucking didn’t and it just kept getting worse. It’s not fair. No matter what I do, I’m stuck going back to this hoard until I can afford to move out. And that’s a long way away because my own struggles make it impossible to start earning anything yet. I just feel like I have no control over my future. I don’t WANT to live in a hoarder home!!!!!!
  • Lucy_21Lucy_21 Posts: 214 Trailblazer
    @AnonymousToe Hey I just want to hop on and say don’t worry you are not the only one like this. My mom is exactly the same, she had so much stuff in every room it was nuts. She watches the horder shows and because it’s not to that extent convinced herself it was alright and just like yours got so defensive when we said anything but this year she’s finally got the message that it’s too much and has sized down significantly and is still going. We have an actual normal functioning house now and I’m proud of her.

    My point here is you are not alone and it can get better even if you think there is no hope. You need to sit your mom down and as hard as it’s going to be her being your mom you need to give her the harsh truth because it sounds like for her to understand at this point you need to be as blunt as possible.

    Explain exactly how it makes both you and your sister feel. Her mother instincts will kick in somewhere trust me. She’s just blind at the moment and maybe she needs therapy because a lot of hordes have an emotional reason for hording we might not see and once you get to the bottom of that it should help

    Good luck always here
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    Apparently it’s all my fault there’s not space because I came home from uni with some luggage. I’m literally not even allowed to exist in this fucking house anymore without my mum screaming at me. She’s being horrible to me because I have loads of washing that needs doing and I really fucking struggle to be independent because my parents couldn’t ever be bothered to teach me anything. Apparently it was all fine at home when I was away, which is such a fucking lie because I saw the place on video calls and it was so bad, plus my mum had even said she didn’t know how there’d be space for me to come home. I hate this SO much. Why can’t she just see that it’s her problem?? Of course things are gonna come back with me!! Of course I’m gonna need help, I’ve just been living independently for the first time ever for 3 months. It’s been so hard but the difference emotionally was kind of horrifying. It’s so much easier to cope emotionally/mentally when I’m not living with my mum. I wish she cared enough to get help. And I dread finishing uni, where am I gonna go?? It’s gonna take so many years to get the money to move out, but I have my own struggles too which will make getting a job incredibly difficult. With a mum like this, I can’t afford to have my own problems. I can’t deal with both hers and mine. It’s too much for me. I don’t want this for my life forever. I missed her but fuck I didn’t miss this. I don’t even know what to do anymore. I’m just glad I won’t be here for long before I go back, but it breaks me to say that. I dont know where I want to be. Somewhere that feels like home but doesn’t have someone tearing me down. If I accidentally blame my mum for her hoarding, she starts coming at me for all my struggles. So basically that means I’m getting berated for being autistic. Why does it have to be like this? Why does she blame me for her problem?
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    Now she’s screaming at me for putting something down on top of a bag because there was nowhere else to put anything. I can’t do this. This isn’t home anymore. I hate it here. I don’t belong anywhere
  • eylaheylah Posts: 5,826 Part of The Furniture
    @AnonymousToe im so sry this is happening 💔 im so sry she started screaming bc you put something down i wanted to check in and ask how are you doing now? sending you so many hugs 🫂.
    keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you. 🤍

    pfp made by @Chloe234 ❤️
  • amy02amy02 Moderator Posts: 394 Listening Ear
    We're here for you @AnonymousToe <3 Keep us updated with how you're doing - I hope you have a better evening
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    Thank you @eylah and @amy02 today has been better luckily
  • eylaheylah Posts: 5,826 Part of The Furniture
    Thank you @eylah and @amy02 today has been better luckily

    oh thats gd! i rly hope things improve for you i rly do bc your deserving of a happy life! im sending you so many hugs 🫂!
    keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you. 🤍

    pfp made by @Chloe234 ❤️
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    My parents want me to get rid of stuff but it’s hard because there are so many rules and there’s so much shouting whenever I do want to get rid of something. I have to keep some things just because. And anyway, if I do get rid of things, my mum will still just keep them downstairs in everyone’s way. And they’re still my things apparently even though I’ve done everything in my power to get them out of the house.

    She’s trying to make space because as usual ‘we don’t have space for Christmas’ and somehow that’s all my fault. All she’ll focus on is the things that don’t belong to her. So she’ll insist on sorting my things and blame me for everything. It’s just so hard because she can’t even realise this is totally insane. Christmas is probably the worst time in a hoarder home,
  • eylaheylah Posts: 5,826 Part of The Furniture
    hey @AnonymousToe this sounds so stressful for you and im so sry i rly am. i dont know what to say but if you ever need to rant etc pls know im here for you always ❤️
    keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you. 🤍

    pfp made by @Chloe234 ❤️
  • briannatbriannat Inactive Posts: 114 The Mix Convert
    @AnonymousToe this does sound really stressful, I'm sorry you're going through this especially during the holidays <3 I'm wondering if you've been able to take some space and time away from this situation and do other things that are less stressful because it sounds like a lot. I also know that it's exhausting trying to rationalize with someone who is a hoarder, it feels like logic doesn't have any space in the conversation. I hope reading through this thread you can see that your mindset is quite normal, and you're seeing things in a logical way which is probably why this situation is so incredibly frustrating. You deserve rest and space away from everything, I hope you get that during this upcoming week
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    Thank you so much @briannat I’ve honestly been so scared over the years that I’ll end up as a hoarder too
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    So, my dad is frustrated with it right now, which means he moans at my mum about the lack of space. But then I get left to deal with my mum’s reaction to that, and she blames literally everyone but herself. It’s just so hard. I can’t be honest with her because if you say anything bad about a hoarder’s stuff, they start verbally/emotionally attacking you. By that I mean she picks at my biggest struggles and blames me for them. Maybe I’m not very tactful about it but I’m not trying to upset her, I just want her to see this for what it is. Christmas Eve is always a really shit day for this stuff. The goal is for a certain level of space ‘by Christmas’ so that just means today she starts piling up her hoard more efficiently 🤦‍♀️ My dad helped me clear some space in my room while I was at uni so my mum’s decided that’s the perfect place to put things. ‘Just for today’ and I bet it’ll be in here for months. It’s honestly my stuff but she won’t allow me to get rid of all the toys and crap clogging up my room. I feel like that aspect is maybe my fault but she’s taught me to be like this. I dont know, it’s just hard
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    It’s so hard today
  • eylaheylah Posts: 5,826 Part of The Furniture
    hugs @AnonymousToe here for you ❤️🫂
    keep your face always toward the sunshine and shadows will fall behind you. 🤍

    pfp made by @Chloe234 ❤️
  • Sian321Sian321 Community Manager Posts: 271 The Mix Regular
    Hey @AnonymousToe thank you for sharing this. It sounds like yesterday was particularly stressful with your Mum and Dad, and today's been really difficult too. I know this time of year can add so much extra pressure within family dynamics, and it sounds extreamly hurtful to have your parents verbally and emotionally attacking you. No one has a right to treat you that way and I can imagine it really taking a toll on how you feel <3

    In some of the hardest moments, has there been anything or anyone that supports you in those conflicts with your parents? For example, I wonder whether there might be any boundaries you'd wish to set with your Mum when she begins to attack?

    Keep us posted @AnonymousToe and we're here to listen!
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    Thank you @Sian321 i don’t think it’s as bad as I’ve made it sound. My mum is only horrible if I dare to suggest that she’s got a problem or that we should get rid of something or there’s no space or whatever. If I just avoid saying those things then that takes one thing away. I still have to live in this place though.
  • AnonymousToeAnonymousToe Posts: 2,536 Boards Guru
    I don’t know what to do. I don’t want this. Everything at home feels so… unhealthy? And toxic? And it really hit me when I came back from uni. This affects all of us and my mum is just in denial.

    She was talking about random stuff tonight and somehow she acknowledged that parental mental health does affect the children. But she can’t apply that knowledge to our situation. She just seems totally oblivious to how bad it really is. I dont know how bad it is though. It feels normal because I’m used to the stuff everywhere. But I know it’s not supposed to be like this. I’ve always been so jealous of people who can use all the furniture in their houses and that just makes me so sad. This has been my childhood. And now I’m 19 and it feels like it’s all falling on me. Nobody’s doing anything. I think my mum needs therapy or something but she says it’s pointless. I’m pretty sure she’s supposed to be on medication that she just randomly stopped at one point too. I just don’t get it. It’s like self neglect but I don’t understand because it affects her children too. It’s like she can’t see this for what it is. It’s like she’s totally insane and it’s honestly scary to think about. I’ll be ok. It’s safe but it’s just a lot to think about, especially when I’m supposed to keep it all to myself. I really want to tell someone who can actually do something to help me. But I’m not sure anyone can. This all feels so hopeless. It’s really hard to be positive and move forward with my own life when my parents are constantly going downhill. I feel responsible because nobody knows that my little sister is living in such an emotionally difficult environment, and maybe she should have help to cope with that. I feel like it’s my job to tell someone, because nobody else will, but if I do then i dont know what will happen to me. My mum might abandon me. And I don’t want to live in a hoarder home but it’s better than the street.
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