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Demonising fat people
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I'm not saying I consider these people my "friends" as such, but I care and respect for them as I would any person I came across in the street or so on.
Gym bunny mentality
its not like the words just appear on the screen out of nowhere.
Every one of these posts is written by a real person with feelings (except for Ricardo of course) If you dont even count them as real what is the point?
Because I don't know them.
It's a way to keep detached or you get far too caught up, as I think many people do on here.
On an unrelated note - I just scored two tickets to the Kanye West gig for tonight
But hey, since this is all just words, why bother, eh? :yeees:
Pretty much! :thumb:
ETA - seriously though, if our views are so very opposing, there is not much point in discussing it much further as we just won't see eye to eye.
This would be sooooooooooo funny if we ended up in seats next to each other
Commiserations to both of you.
Aye - not really a fan but I know the girl I am dating likes them so thought 'why not'
So do I!
And sadly I think that is the biggest issue in this thread, and in the boards in general.
There are some very vulnerable people on these message boards, and regardless of whether you know them, some empathy would be appreciated. There have been a few people who have been reduced to tears because of what has been written by you and others; it's something you should bear in mind. It may just be the internet for you, it may not count to you, but some people don't have the mental strength to let it lie.
Nobody is asking to "lie", as you put it, but I don't think these boards are the appropriate place to go on about being "repulsed" by overweight people. You need to choose your words more carefully.
It's interesting, though, how everyone seems to think it acceptable to brand people lazy layabouts because they are overweight. It is too simplistic to say that they should eat less and exercise more. It's accurate, but it's as helpful as telling a self-harmer to just put down the goddamn knife. It is belittling, and it reinforces the images of fat people as worthless failures. And being constantly told you are worthless is enough to make anyone reach for the cream cakes.
To be honest, I don't think I come across too badly 95% of the time, but now and again my views don't quite match those of the majority.
Certainly not going to take offence at something on the internet from somebody I don't know though
It's amazing how people are 'repulsed' by overweight people and then sorry to mention names but in particular I noticed KHSS reply to someone in a jokey fashion something along the lines of 'oh you'd be repulsed by me then
Oh and then stupid patronising sidelines of so called encouraging the other posters to exercise. You may as well just be poking them with a stick whilst jogging alongside them saying 'run fatty run' followed by the obligetary smiley of course
I think some of you should actually thank Ricardo for diverting the spotlight of shame away from yourselves.
Of course that is just my opinion
And you've hit the nail on the head there.
My views largely coincide with what suzy has said on the matter.
Some of the words used in this thread have been disgusting. Some of the people should know better.
Be as fat as you like, it's your choice. Find the mediums to be slim, if you want to be. Eat what you like, and like I said, be the size you want to be - noone should ever look at a 'fat' person and think, well I'm not going to 'associate' with them becuase of their size.Well, I wouldn't want to 'associate' with someone with that opinion. I don't have any time for it.. Being fat has nothing to do with who you are..a person can be seen as good due to their personality - a person can be as skinny as anything, and be a complete asshole..
A good friend of mine is overweight, and she's the one of the happiest people I know, and has many friends. I'm overweight by at least 2 stone - it doesn't bother me, I'll lose weight only when I want to, not because society feels I should have to!!!
I'm going to get my head bitten off now haha!!!!!
Those who do more extreme activities, like riding a motorcycle, rock-climbing, skiing and so on, cost more money. They certainly don't pay for the cost of their treatment.
So obese people can't present themselves properly? :rolleyes:
I'm going to say this one more time, because I'm sick of you twisting it no matter how many times people make the point to you.
It isn't your views that are a problem here, it's your inability to express them in a way that doesn't offend other people. It's your deliberate choice of the most offensive terms for what you are expressing.
The widespread existance of fat people is a relatively recent thing too. I think you're right in what you describe, but I think what you demonstrate is a conflict of finding certain evolutionary benefits desirable. Like I said, looks are only one aspect of finding people "attractive" or valuing them as such. Another hugely important one is social status. It makes excellent evolutionary sense to ally yourself with a person of high social status, and in many cases, this will be more important than their looks. That's why an ugly rich man would never have problems getting a date. And that's why in certain cultures in the past, being fat has been an external indicator of this social status (like in our culture, it's nice cars, expensive clothes and being very slim). Currently, therefore, you have a combination of fat being generally unattractive in the physical sense, and an indicator of lower social status. It's like a double whammy. But to deny the biological causes, you'd also have to demonstrate that an (obviously physically) anorexic person wouldn't be the subject of the same levels of repulsion.
Oh and I'd just like to say that looking for, and discussing evolutionary reasons for things isn't the same thing as justifying it morally. I'm sure I could come up with evolutionary reasons for rape, infanticide, and various other morally unjustifiable things. Doesn't make it wrong to talk about in an objective way.
If you one to say that your fat and happy about it then in all honestly I think your either a liar or a little foolish. I admire the attitiude that you don't give a fuck what other people think, but what about your health. You wanna die younger and suffer life long diseases?
One of my best mates is naturally a huge fucker with a huge gut - he'll never be any other shape. He exercises daily though and because of that he's healthy - and surely that's the most important thing.
Unless you have some physicalo disability that prevents you from excersise than I really see no good excuse for dodging it.
But I think there is some justifictaion in the "Why don't they do something about it?' attitude . I used to get it all the time as a smoker and I think it was justified.