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The worrying and sickening thing about all of this is for it to actually get-out from within the bounds of the religious establishment means it must be on a worryingly large scale, stupidly big.
Am I correct in thinking that nobody is going to stand trial? Arseholes.
I had hoped, from the Pope's letter to the Irish, that he intended that guilty priests should face justice in the courts.
... but time will tell.
The signs are that many don't. One of the more disturbing developments recently is the changes that are taking place at masses here in Ireland now. I can't help but notice a section has quietly been sneaked in where people now have to pray for the Pope. Yet not a single word is uttered about the hundreds, possibly thousands of children who have been abused in the care of the priests who were meant to be looking after them over the years. Whichever prat came up with this idea ought to be sacked. It makes it look like the upper echelons of the Church are interested solely in saving the Pope's bacon, and it doesn't help when the Vatican go on about media conspiracies, smear campaigns and other such vacuous drivel.
Does the church honestly want to change? I'm not sure - and I think it's a crying shame, as there are countless good Catholics out there who do good things and live good lives.
So there you have it, right from the horse's mouth. More concerned with protecting the institution than justice for the victims or cleaning up the church's act. But I'm sure that won't come as a surprise to anyone. Catholics should be backing this move, if they want to get rid of the corrupt hierarchy in their church, and make it fit to run institutions with a duty of care to children. Incidentally, there is also talk of a case being built to issue an arrest warrant for the Pope in the UK, which would pretty much mean his visit would be cancelled. And wouldn't it be a shame if we didn't have to shell out for that? Something tells me it won't happen though, somehow. And yes, there are countless good Catholic who do good things with their life. Unfortunately, giving money to the Catholic church has never been one of these good things. I think even if they do go to church, they should be boycotting the collection plate right now.
I think this is the article I read: The Times
Man, it'd give me a good giggle to see the Pope being arrested.
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Unbefuckinglievable.
As for the link Aladdin published, that seems another example of The Observer's increasingly sensationalist and questionable reporting. Something just doesn't stand up there.
This rings a bell. What about your own "sensationalist and questionable" postings?
Bravo, Stargalaxy. Fucking Bra-vo!
If a case can be built against the pope, of course he should be arrested and charged. As should be the case for any of the other church leaders involved. I just wonder how much political will there is to do so in largely Catholic countries with Catholics in charge. Which is why it might come down to individual groups of lawyers to build the case instead.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7096149.ece
Are these cunts taking the piss? How long before they progress to blaming women? Or the children themselves?
Sorry man, you'll need a source for a claim like that, otherwise we'd need to pull it.
Right, let's get this clear. I think that this Dawkins/Hitchens stunt will come to nothing - I don't think they'll be able to get anywhere near the Pope, considering how much security will be around him when he visits the UK. Then again, some mentally ill woman did manage to approach him last Christmas, so who knows? I happen to think they're both fruitcakes, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day. They've got some valid criticism in there of the Catholic Church that I totally agree with - I just think that this is not the best way to go about making it.
Shock and awe on vatican city.
Think of the loot to be had too.
Pay of most of the world debts I'd imagine.
Send in the troops now.
They have weapons of MASS deception.
:rolleyes: Uh huh.
Has anybody asked Jesus his opinion on this? (Catholics believe in Jesus... right?)
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