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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/sep/06/hurricanekatrina.usa3
Worth watching 'When the Levees Broke' as well
But you need to define 'peadophile'. Is it someone who has a lifelong perversion for kids, or is it just someone who abuses kids? If it's the latter, people can be products of their environment, especially if there is no checks and balances to make sure people know its definitely wrong.
Just like you don't need to be gay to rape someone of the same sex in prison, you don't need to be sexually attracted to exclusively children (I don't think there is a sexual orientation towards kids really) to abuse them.
^^^This
Now, that is not what I was told by the police. I am not prepubescent, I am (almost) a teenager. I was raped, and the police told me if he was convicted he would be classed as a paedophile. He also raped one of my friends, who is older than me, and she was told the same thing.
However, he was not convicted and therefore is not classed as a paedophile.
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I think the difference there is whether it is paedophilia by law, which is under 16, or paedophilia by what the word means, which applies to prepubescents.
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After paedophilia, hebephilia is the sexual preference for earlier pubescent individuals and the attraction to mid to late aged teenagers is called ephebophilia.
Paedophilia is often used to refer to sexual interest in minors below the legal age of consent, which isn't always strictly accurate.
Jesus Christ, The Times have got a fella reporting on this called Roger Boyes. You really couldn't make this shit up.
Sexual activity with a child obviously covers times where a rape/assault charge wouldn't be appropriate.
There are also a number of additional offences related to anyone below 16 around commissioning/inciting sexual behaviour, abusing positions of trust, etc. It's all quite complicated but yeah - the law doesn't use any definitions around the sexual desires of the person committing the crime.
I wasn't saying that using the word 'paedophile' was a legal term but when you hear people either talking or reporting about under age sex offences, they usually refer to the word regardless of of what age the victim actually was.
Check out who wrote the article
Joke ?
Yes, but I am not prepubesent. Puberty has nothing to do with age really. Everyone is different.
Xx
Like any other person, the priests guilty should be brought to account through the justice system.
Like any other organisation with systematic failures, it should be broken open to wider scrutiny. The Church, as in the Catholic Church, as an institution, surely belongs to Catholic people rather than the pope or some elite. They should change it so that all this backdoorsy dealing is done away with.
If someone is accused, then it should be referred to the criminal authorities, and the church should assist in their investigation in any way they can. The accused should temporarily be suspended from working with children and vulnerable adults while the investigation is carried out. Further to this, I think the Church, recognising there is a systematic failure to adequately deal with this kind of thing, should offer some form of compensation to all those they have failed in their duty of care, and also they should set up a branch that is independent from the rest of the church to specifically deal with complaints of a serious nature.
But the pope is chosen by GOD to lead the catholic church - what the members of the church want, or even the laws of the countries they operate in are a very poor second to that.
And if the Vatican fails to live up to its responsibilities as a UN member state, it should be subject to sanctions. Starting with a ban on operating any facility with a duty of care to children throughout the EU. We can't have a situation where schools and adoption agencies are run by an organisation that to this very day will do anything to avoid an open investigation into abuses.
I laughed too. I felt a little bit evil!
Pope's preacher likens criticism of Pope over child abuse to the Holocaust
Are these evil, twisted, arrogant motherfuckers having a laugh or something?
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[Jews] "know from experience what it means to be victims of collective violence" and are thus "quick to recognise the recurring symptoms".
Father Cantalamessa told the congregation he had received a letter from a Jewish friend who was "following with disgust the violent attacks against the Church and the Pope". His friend had written: "The use of stereotypes and the shifting of personal responsibility to a collective guilt remind me of the most shameful aspects of anti-Semitism."
Nope - no mention of the Holocaust.
Now it may be daft thing to say, but he's not comparing it to the Holocaust at all.
Still I suppose that is an improvement your normal claims of it being the Israeli army
Still, no comment or opinion on the shameful behavoiur of Vatican officials then?
Well the reference is there but I didn't find the comments offensive, just perhaps melodramatic. But they weren't official comments anyway, it was from what a priest said to his sermon. It's obvious the media has caught wind of it and wants to have a field day and the overreactions do play into their hands. If anything, really it detracts from the real criticism the church should be receiving for its lack of transparency and progressiveness in dealing with the systematic abuses and cover ups.
I think he's overstating the case, but its blindingly obvious that's he's not referring to the Holocaust.
Perhaps it just me; I suspect its because I'm not a tabloid reader and know that the history of anti-semitism is much wider than just the holocaust. A historical parrallel to me seems much more in line with the old fashioned collective guilt (ie one guilty all guilty) in line with, for example, the collective fining of Jewish villages during the Tsar or various English kings punitive taxation on Jews following arguments.