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i actually meant how could they fake DNA evidence mate
we dont know the full story, fair enough i will accept they were a bit slow to react with initially, but we dont actually know if they've had their eye on the mccanns since the beginning, maybe they've known the truth for a while but waiting for more evidence to prove a stronger charge.
of course the press will do what is needed to sell papers, but of course the people saying that its a fit up and that the police investigation has been dodgy have been getting it from the same sources.
its all or nothing as far as im concerned, you cant pick and choose what you think is correct when it comes from the same source.
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It's not just hair in the car - bodily fluids too. Also it's been claimed a "substantial amount" which could not have rubbed off from clothing etc. Do you honestly think investigators - people who do this for a living - were dumb enough not to think "wait a sec, this could've got in here from SOME CLOTHES"?
The parents would have been the first suspects had the investigation taken place over here, if only to rule them out. Stop with the mindless speculation.
'Those Portugese police, eh lads? Bunch of no good foreigners, pinning murder onto us Brits.'
or maybe thats what TeamMccann want you to believe? what im trying to get at tho is that the same papers you are critising are the ones that also originally told you the stories about the main suspect and that she'd been taken abroad etc...
i think you are very naive to think that madeline is still safe somewhere, god wish she was, but the most likely case is that if she had been kidnapped is that she is dead by now.
noone could keep such hot property under wraps for this long, they couldnt go anywhere, altho having said that, there was that case in Belgium? a few years back where the girl was released after many years of abuse...
and SHOCK HORROR, everyone doesnt do things the same as us brits. whats to say their way of things could actually be better than ours? nothing, unless you are a expert on the worlds legal systems.
Due to portugese law, theres not that many people who actually know what the evidence is. So how do you? From that, how do you know its a joke?
Renault have brought out a new people carrier that's so comfortable & spacious you can't tell the kids are in the back - they're calling it the Renault McCann.
*hides*
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stamp collecting
cant bring myself to repeat it.
wyetry: i'll PM you now...
surely you can see that point of view?
I'd also ask if it was entirely concievable that hair etc could be on possessiona which were placed in the boot of the car at any time
I'd ask how it is possible to match something to her DNA without actually having her DNA profile in the first place. I'd certainly want to know where the DNA profile comes from seeing as the police cannot take a DNA swab from the host.
Finally I'd ask how this couple are ever going to live their lives because even if they are found not guilty there will be people, like some on these boards, who have read something in the papers, assume that it is fact and formed their own guilty verdict.
You have to wonder how the press gets all these facts considering they're only known to investigators.
Just to play devil's advocate here MoK
No, it would give them enough samples of something which could be her DNA. It could also be anyone elses who has ever been in contact of close proximity to the items in question.
The only way anyone can be sure is to have a profile to match it against - eg a swab/blood test whatever which has been taken from the person.
Now without a body to take that from they have no way of matching anything to her DNA.
My point - 88% match against what?
To report something is an "88% match" gives a huge impression of guilt. It's completely bogus.
Stories like the ones in the press recently just exacerbate things, hence my comment yesterday. Regardless of how this whole debacle finally resolves itself, even if Maddy is found, the McCanns life is now over.
From watching CSI you would get the impression police could get a full DNA profile from a particle of dundruff found hanging from a hair found on a skip
*Must stop watching CSI*
My point - 88% match against what?[/QUOTE]
Why would you do that? Unless you mean CSI Miami which is shit.
Regarding MoK's comment, I think you have a point about people gaining some sort of kick by having a news story of a set of parents being accused of killing their own daughter.
That said it probably springs from the issue starting with her, not even 4 years old, being left with her 2 year old siblings. Regardless of them checking up on them, I think most people - myself included, find it very irresponsible (though my mom said that whilst she never did so with us, she understands where they came from when wanting an evening alone). Basically Their image started as a negative.
Interesting then that it's the only thing which seems to have remained consistent since May...
You can get a profile, sure. But the problem is establishingwhose it is...
and the circumstances