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i think our wee ones account for the 10%
actually, my nephew eats pretty well, but he does go through weird stages. he had a stage where he'd only eat orange foods. luckily this included stuff like carrots, sweet potato and oranges, but it was a total nightmare getting any proteins into him.
left to his own devices, i think he'd live entirely on quavers, ham and bananas.
Plants and mamals are both living things, what give you the right to decide which is superior, are you god?
I personally am not a vegetarian by the way, if that makes any difference.
Imagine if more and more people started becoming vegan, how much of the environment would be destroyed by creating more crops to deal with consumer demands, then how much pollution would come from pesticides and transport... Then how many farms would go out of business.
'In environmental terms, meat-eating is a costly habit. The world's livestock herds consume increasing quantities of land, energy, and water. A quarter of the earth's landmass is used as pasture for livestock; more than half the farmland in the USA is devoted to beef production. While it takes, on average, 25 gallons (113 litres) of water to produce a pound of wheat in modern Western farming systems, it requires an astonishing 2,500 gallons (11,250 litres) of water to produce a pound of meat. Throughout the world, livestock herds accelerate erosion and desertification; 85% of topsoil loss in the USA is attributed to livestock ranching, for example.' Joni Seager, The State of The Environment Atlas, Penguin Books, 1995.
'In cycling our grain through livestock, we waste 90% of its protein and 96% of its calories. An acre of cereal can produce five times more protein than an acre devoted to meat production; and legumes (beans, lentils, peas) can produce ten times as much. Thus the greater the human consumption of animal products, the fewer people can be fed.' Joni Seager, The State of the Environment Atlas, Penguin Books, 1995.
Too many Fern Gully fans out there not knowing what they're talking about. :mad:
no they don't!
http://www.broadoak.n-somerset.sch.uk/subjects/science/biology/AQAmod2syll.doc
Bloody GCSE :mad:
Plants have a transport system to transport WATER and NUTRIENTS only...
They have specialised cells and stomata, collenchyma etc. Not neurons and synapses to feel "pain"!
I don't want to have to visit a zoo just to see a cow.
We don't eat horses .......
I would certainly not advise the use of supplements to anyone, because vitamin and mineral supplements interfere with the absorption of other supplements, and some vitamins can build up in tissue and cause illness when taken in high amounts as part of a supplement.
However, those individuals who provide for their children with high-fat, low nutrient diet are sinning in a much more disgusting manner, fuelling the development of teenage slobs and encouraging unhealthy individuals to develop.
In conclusion, I believe it's wrong to inflict any variation in diet on a child without proper monitoring to ensure the child is getting ALL the nutrients they require. This is vitally important as we're dealing with a growing organism. However, once the child has reached maturity and ceased to develop - I can't exactly stop him or her doing as he or she pleases.
Which is exactly what I said two pages ago.
I strongly suggest you throughly research any vegan-related material on the internet. I have found several sources, all written for the benefit of vegans, stating the dangers of breastfeeding without providing mother or baby with B-12 supplements when the mother is a vegan.
I didn't for a second suggest that breastfeeding is by any means being discredited, my point was that vegans need to be responsible and consider the needs of the baby above their own ideas and beliefs.
"(Vitamin B12) is exclusively synthesised by bacteria and is found primarily in meat, eggs and dairy products. There has been considerable research into proposed plant sources of vitamin B12. Fermented soya products, seaweeds, and algae such as spirulina have all been suggested as containing significant B12. However, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources."
Source - www.vegsoc.org/info/b12.html
Like has been said before, it can be done and the kid could be really healthy, but by restricting your diet down to vegan you are making it harder. Not impossible just harder.
No we ride them, what is your point?
That not eating animals doen't mean they disappear.
We erm, don't eat cats and dogs either.....
:wave:
What I am finding hard to get my head round is the demonising of vegans as an irresponsible group. People who are strict vegans are in a very small minority, its hardly a big risk compared to the higher risk for children brought up on a modern day processed fast food diet.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were so simple. I should have expalained myself better.
I was talking about agricultural animals - Pigs, Cattle, Sheep etc.
What's going to happen to them if we don't eat them? Pets? You going to learn to ride a cow?
I can see that, the Derby run on pigs, it would be more interesting.
Yeah, please excuse my feeblemindedness -
I wonder where milk and wool come from.....
You dont get meat from milking cows.