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So we shpuld only eat what we can kill with our bare hands? I'm sure if you gave me long enough I could kick a cow to death.
I'd like to see you catch a ribbit or a fish with your bear hands.
And I don't see keeping animals in zoo's any better than keeping them on a farm.
I agree with you that zoos are as bad as farms unless you mean intensive farms, which id say were far worse. The only thing that is better about zoos is they dont have as many animals in captivity in them as they do on farms.
i can see where you're coming form but i find something really snobbish about that, i mean there are various psychological implications in telling a child what they should and should not eat, would that make a child less assertive as a person in the future?
well, the medical professionals you saw, were, erm..... wrong. I'm right.
but does that not give out a signal to the child to do what people tell them to do and wait till another time to make your own choices, we must remeber that we are most impresshionable in our youth, i'm not sure though, i'm a confused druggy, i think things that are too fucked up but i feel there's always an undercurrent of opinions that are embedded in our minds, subconsciously stuck forever, being released at the silliest of times and attitudes are also shaped by even the slightest things and morals moulded by childhood memories, but in reality it's just my fucked up head. :crazyeyes
Excellent!
Oh, and FTP is a troll. "snappy one liners"? I've seen more bite from a goldfish.
erm, all of the evidence is there, it's quoted all over the place, including SPECIFIC MEDICAL ADVICE to VEGANS AND VEGETARIANS that B12 deficiency is linked to lack of meat in the diet. don't call me braindead, it's quite easy to find, just do a google and you'll find bucketloads of sources telling you exactly the same.
ah google, that accurate medical source.
Why are you back, and how have you managed to get dumber in your absence?
I am back to see you, and try and remember a time when you actually agreed with something I said.
You're not really paying attention to anything i'm saying are you?
true but why subject your child to something which is effectively a restricted diet and unnnatural since we are omnivores and are suited for digesting different nutrients from different foods, iron intake efficiency is higher from meat for example whilst other things in are best absorbed from vegetables etc
for an adult to choose sure, but for a child, just give them what is nutritious
as someone said earlier id be more worried about additives etc
imho people who preach meat is murder, should be fed to free range organic pigs :thumb: - i can understand how someone would question the methods, but not the overall result
On a related tangent, personally i'd prefer to simply eat organic food as fresh as possible, and eat less processed food.
Of course I am. Nutritionists agree that a lack of protein and B12 is bad for you, or the nutritionist who used to moderate on here agreed.
vegetarianism is bad for young children, in the same way it is bad for cats.
Except a child isn't losing vital vitamins by using formula milk.
Formula milk isn't ideal, but the nutrients get to the child anyway. In the case of vegans/veggies, they don't.
Children do miss out on immunoglobulins by being bottle fed. It's the same idea.
I think veganism is unhealthy for a very young child. I knew this before this article. Im sure even the vegan society wouldnt recommend the diet for tinies without some very serious meal planning going on - if then.
Vegetarianism on the other hand is fine for children. You dont need meat as long as youre still getting certain vitamins from other sources, and a vegetarian diet is probably healthier than a lot of childrens diets that I have seen. obviously this varies from family to family, area to area, but there is a lot more to healthy eating than Meat = good.
Breast is best.
Not breastfeeding isn't good, but a lot of women don't like it, for whatever reason. Fair enough that, I think.
But vegetarianism has no impact on the mother's comfort, and is unjustifiable on any child too young to decide for itself.
If we`re talking about giving a child the best start in life.
I dont see whats fair enough about it.
Similarly you can't force someone to feed their child meat, despite it probably being healthier than a vegan diet. Neither bottle feeding nor veganism are ideal for growing children, but what can you do?
There's a reason that you're an expert on brain dead kunts - its called projection.
I of course can only aspire to the quality of posts you churn out:
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:crazyeyes
Actually I have no understanding of your politics at all really.
And I think Kermit summed up your 'one liners' quite well.
And I post here for debate on issues, to read other perspectives and to learn new stuff. Not to behave in a kermit/crackjesus sanctioned way, nopt for popularity.
I don't give a flying shit whether you like me or not .......
I do however object to your repeated description of me as a troll - which has happened since day 1 - and your creation of a hostile environment which seeks to ensure that the opinions expressed on these boards are in accrodance with your own weak value system.
Put me on ignore why don't you? I have yet to be intellectually challenged by anything that you have brought into a discussion here.
And there was us thinking you were just trying desperately hard to prove how "radical" you are.
I've yet to see you acknowledge any point raised by any poster unless it agrees with yours. Good debate, that isn't.
I don't *need* to prove anything to anybody, I write what I think.
You might like to give an example of an unacknowledged valid point to prove your thesis......... even better, why don't you show me how to do it, and bolster your claims by showing where you've conceded a point.