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But MoK in particular is someone who you rarely acknowledge and is often right.
Erm, why did I suspect that you'd come up with nothing.......
I have slightly better things to do with my time than trawl through the search on this place finding stuff to "prove" something against a person who can only be described as "troll".
Goodnight.
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Considering the hormones, etc they pump animals with to make them bigger, leaner, etc ... maybe not!!
theres crap like that in sorts of food though
if you what they grow bananas with to stop disease youll be :O
gives the workers cancer and skin conditions in poor countries
Not a problem, I'm not accusing you of taking my thoughts and posting them as your own. I know you can think intelligently from time to time.
Erm, is it your claim that eating MacDonalds is AS healthy as having a vegan diet?
If it was true, it would make a good follow up to Super Size Me.
Thats not actually what she said at all.
What she was saying was an overtly restrictive diet of either fatty foods or only certain vegan ones are equally dangerous to a child. Just for different reasons.
It still looks to me that a lot of food groups are covered, and if it was done right then it wouldnt be that restrictive at all.
When they researched it werent they basing their idea of a vegan diet on the kind of diet they had in the third world - not the kind of diet a british person may have with full access to fresh vegetables and a local holland and barrett shop with vegan alternatives to nearly everything.
Im not a vegan or a vegetarian, but I have had times where ive put my son on dairy free for a while (when hes had colds or tummy bugs, I stop dairy foods) and I didnt find it that restrictive really. Im pretty hot on nutrition issues and feeding my family healthily.
feeding deep fried meat and potato products (fried in hydrogenated oil) with extra salt and colourings ie macdonalds has almost NO nutritional value in fact id say it was actively harmful if anything other than occasional.
Plus there is more to eating mcdonalds than just the food. You wouldnt want to support that too often.
You believe the person with the evidence to suggest that they are right. I have the evidence - show me some from these so-called professionals
They should make a film called "Vega-Nize Me" and it should be about a man, that for a month has to eat all his food from holland and barrett and a locally grown organic box scheme for his vegetables. Everything needs to be dairy free and preferably minimally processed. Only drink fortified soya milks etc, even his water has to be from a health food shop.
After the month, do health checks on him and then we re-coil in horror at how his liver and kidneys are fuctioning properly, about how his arteries are free-flowing and unclogged, how his blood pressure is completely normal etc etc etc.
That's not the issue at hand. The issue is whether or not being vegetarian affects B12 levels in the human body. The answer is yes, because the most abundant source of B12 is meat.
Heh, Morgan Spurlocks partner was a vegan I believe ....... It might even work
It might be possible to give a child a balanced vegan diet... but very difficult to achieve though, and requiring a lot of attention to detail. I doubt most parents in this positions are going to be able to provide all the necessary supplements in all the right amounts.
Look! Theres the answer. I summed it up perfectly on page one.
the debate has covered veganism for children, vegetarianism for children, the same diets for mankind as a whole, the pros and cons, whether its better than other diets, whether its hard to implement, whether vegans are stupid and/or abusive, manipulating children, the ethics of mcdonalds.
Its brilliant how threads develop on this site. I love it.
I don't think a personal moral view should come in the way of how a child is fed and raised. And veganism and vegetarianism is a personal moral view interfering with how a child is fed and raised.