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why mdma is the question
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Please can someone explain the full logistics of this mdma, i mean i take pills you see(ecstacy) and everyone is talking about this new drug, i know that mdma is the ecstacy but its just pure, but then some other people say its not pure? god its just confusing me this drug, what do you recommend or think about this powder form mdma
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With MDMA powder there seems to be the likelyhood that it will actually be MDMA not any of the other Phenylamine drugs like MDA or MDEA (relatives in the amphetamine family to MDMA). Of course all powders on the market are going to be stepped on or cut with adulterants to maximise profit, but alot of MDMA powder is ususally better quality than pills because it can be sold for more and has a better name these days (if they make it too shitty people wont come back for more).
Remember when you do MDMA powder you are probably dealing with a much stronger version than bog standard pill; please do not go caining it like a handful of beans because if it is very pure it will bitch slap you on the comedown. Snorting MDMA powder will hurt like fuck as well, as MDMA is course, crystaline powder that is not easy on the skin or nasal membrane.
If you bomb it, do so with caution and increment the dose steadily and only after you have given it time for the effects of the intial dose to fully develop. With good quality MDMA powder you may find you dont actually need to do that much to get a good effect. Dont go mad with it; enjoy the experience and dont think just coz its in your pocket you have to do more.
MDMA is only dose sensitive to a certain degree, you can only come up so far. Dropping 10 beans for example may mena nyou are wasting beans because you hit the 'ceiling' on your 5th or 6th.
MDMA powder can be a very enjoyable and wonderful experience if taken with the right people who you trust and in a manner and place where you feel comfortable, do not abuse it and treat with caution.
Dealers could cut it with something thus making it less pure and more money for them, that's the chance you have to take.
I don't recommend taking anything on this site, it's a harm reducation place.
Be careful with that 'no comedown' statement mate, it isnt exactley true.
Theres this myth that pill comedowns stem from adulterants in the pill, this isnt entirely true. Comedowns are in fact a combination of stresses on the body that conspire to manifest into a comedown. These can be tiredness from prolonged physical activity (raving it up
After use of MDMA there is more often than not a temporary state of serotonin (5HT) depletion in the brain which takes a period of time to normalise, depending on how much MDMA has been taken.
Perhaps the most prolific and well known recorder of its effects, Dr Alexander Shulgin claimed in his subjective experiments (he tested only on himself) that a dose of between 75-120mg of MDMA resulted in no serious after effects. This does not apply in the case of MDMA powder for several reasons.
Firstly Shulgin is brilliant chemist and would have been able to dose himself accurately, something no one can with a bag of powder. Secondly Shulgins experiments were subjective and only prove how it effects him. Each person's brain chemistry will be different and thus effect how much or many comedown symptoms exhibit themselves, however i would infer there are a great many people who do share the ability to handle Psychotropics are well as Dr Shulgin (we are talking about a man who really has taken most everything and is still in full possetion of his brilliant intellect after years of experimentation).
I wouldnt like to bet (although they do exist) there are a majority who could do this.
MDMA tolerance builds far more rapidly than it decreases. It does decrease over time, but only at a rate that would take centuries to disappear completely. If you go caining MDMA, you are stuck with what you are left with im afraid.
The difference between powder and pills is virtually totally subjective, people expect a better experience so they get one.
However, a lot of pills do test with trace amounts of MDA, which would lead to a less 'clean' high.
I suppose if he had taken 400 or more mcg then he might not have felt it, but then how did he manage to snort it?
i think i said that earlier, im just saying that however much of it was step on, anything left behind could have been blighted by the acid experience. Having already covered the aforementioned and more likely possibility i thought we should explore other areas of influence as well....oh go back to sleep grandad
You're not my grandson! Where's my lunch?!
Anyway, yes, you're quite right, the LSD could have over powered any experience from the MDMA. But we all know that 250mg snorted will produce an effect in even the most hardened pill taker. And its seriously unwise.