describe your ecstacy 'comedowns'

Jaded

Angostura bitters is a favorite of mine, its really nice in a G&T too...

Oh and BTW, how did this thread get here? Thieves...

Former Member

Well of course you can always get better, but cost does have to come into it at some point and if you're drinking 1/2 a bottle in a session it gets pricey.

Former Member

if you're drinking half a bottle in a session you stop appreciating it and will drink anything by your fifth double....

LJ; Try Gin and Bitter Lemon with Angostura and a small teaspoon of simple syrup if you've got it...

Former Member

Martin_Bashir wrote:

if you're drinking half a bottle in a session you stop appreciating it and will drink anything by your fifth double....
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I object to that, you still taste it, though I was desperate enough a while back to crack open the Meed half way through the night.

Former Member

i rest my case :yeees:

Jaded

Good. Can we get back to the point now?

Former Member

LadyJade wrote:

Good. Can we get back to the point now?

Yes.

Dont drink on your comedown its bad for you.

And dont mix Meed with several other forms of alcohol in one night, it hurts.

Former Member

:grump: if at all possible the best way is just to ride out the comedown...shite situation but then again how can anything that good come without a price?

Former Member

Well the best way to avoid harsh comedowns is not to push the night too long, I believe that most of the problem is just extreme tiredness, this is made much worse if you extend the night too far.

Former Member

and munching pills like they're going out of fashion.

Former Member

Martin_Bashir wrote:

and munching pills like they're going out of fashion.

Which they seem to be with a fairly large section of older clubbers.

Former Member

yeah....here come di coke

'no matter how i treat my guests,
They always like my kitchen best,
You know why?,
Coz i've got cocaine,
Running around my brain...'

Former Member

Because cocaine is purer, safer and more civilised, isnt it?

Former Member

no no no, hey hey hey, thats what i say...sorry going through my itunes.

the cocaine culture thats developed since the millenium is quite scarey.

Stella and coke and football...what can save us?

Former Member

God only knows, we're now tooting more of the stuff than ever before yet the price is still falling.

The Independant on Sunday did a very interesting piece on where cocaine money goes, shame it wont make any difference.

Former Member

the Independant and Guardian are always doing pieces on this.

i'd say in terms of patterns of use, its replaced E to some extent as a widely consumed party drug.

In the sense of its not 'Im dropping tonight' its 'Getting some ching in for tonight'.

Ever get the feeling we're back in the 1980's just with better technology?

Music, drugs, films...popular culture is getting very disco retro these days

Former Member

And no one wants to accept that cocaine is dangerous and addictive.

Former Member

mmm and the problem is with coke, that its one of those drugs you can just do all the time, in any situation and just continue using.

I actually dont think i know of any other recreational drug which has so many applications and usage patterns.

Former Member

Unlike pills it is a drug which you can do and people not notice (within reason) and that makes the potential for addiction higher, well that and the self re-enforcing pattern which happens in the brain of the user.

Former Member

mmm true...

one of my collegues gets up every day on speed and coke

Former Member

I've heard they dont mix that well, but some people seem to like it.

Really fucks with your pleasure reward scale if you're not careful, you end up only getting dopamine from cocaine.

Former Member

and thats a big 'Oh Dear'.

Former Member

Well quite, cocaine has this reputation for making you great in bed, but if you do it often enough it will sap your sex drive down to nothing.

And they're unsure if it really ever goes back to its origional state.

Former Member

ive heard this, seriously scarey on so many levels...life without dopamine?

Former Member

Or at least with a restricted dopamine response, which means nothing gives you as much pleasure as it used to.

There is 'L-dopa' of course, though I doubt it would be used in cases such as this, its used to treat Parkinsons at the moment.

Former Member

i've heard of this.

To be honest though in one context it could be seen as having not effect, i mean shite pills might give someone A buzz, but i defy you to find someone who has substandard pills and says he enjoyed them.

Only the best effect is desirable, especially for many users.

Former Member

Pure pills arent wanted anymore though, people want a punch, they want MDA and MDMA, of course the myth still persists that 'oh these are really clean mate' but thats not what most users want.

They want the biggest punch for the least money. You dont get quality if that is your ethos.

Former Member

and just wait till meth gets over here...honestly i cant fathom why it hasnt made it over here yet on a larger scale.

Former Member

It will do and when it does we are doomed.

I expect a rash of meth pills to come onto the market soon. If I was totally evil I'd do it myself, you're bound to make a massive amount of money, shame about the social damage you would cause.

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bongbudda wrote:

Unlike pills it is a drug which you can do and people not notice (within reason) and that makes the potential for addiction higher, well that and the self re-enforcing pattern which happens in the brain of the user.

People will notice if you're full of cocaine...the notion that you can do coke and have it go unnoticed is no doubt a result of quality levels being relatively low...i.e. people sniffing milk powder and believing they're off their tits on charlie.

Pupils the size of pool balls, sweat dripping off your head, raving on non-stop...real coke not that different from pills imho.

Nothing particularly wrong with an occasional bit here and there. As with everything, moderation...