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THAT MAN IS THE WINN0R!
WELL JUSTIFIED THERE, JIMINY!
So why didn't she theoretically use it?
She also has the power to claim all of the swans in the UK, but she doesn't.
She also has the power to dissolve the government when she feels like it, but she doesn't.
She has many powers. She just doesn't use them. Most of the time, she does what she's asked to do. I would expect that Tony would have met with her and told her that he had significant evidence that there were WMDs in Iraq. If i was the Queen and Tony gave me the evidence, there's no reason to doubt his word if the evidence is compelling enough. I'd agree.
No, you're right, the best thing to do is act like a pussy and just eat dinner with them instead, and form pointless alliances that make no difference to anything whatsoever. What we need is... An old woman that stinks and serves no purpose!
And the caps lock added what exactly to that post? You're laying into him because he likes the queen. Which is a bit shite really.
How do you know these alliances serve no purpose?
We need alliances with the Middle East. We can't just go ahead and bomb every single one of them because we don't like them. We need their oil. There are plenty of other resources that we depend on, that are only available in countries lots of Britons would like to invade. We can't.
At least someone doesn't have a problem with my being a royalist.
Roflmao!
Why would recalling all the swans make any difference to anyone whatsoever? Maybe she could train them to spit at people and send them to a dictatorship to "liberate" them?
You forget the fact that Tony publicly admitted that his evidence was lacking. Again, you're wrong.
He didn't admit his evidence was lacking at the time he went to war.
The point of the silly example is that the Queen has lots of power, but she can't just use power because she has it.
It added the effect of sarcasm.
Well, i sure killed your argument didn't i?
We're laying into him due to his outdated and pompous opinions about normal people that aren't upper class.
Read the thread and then maybe you'll be able to comment
It added the effect of sarcasm.
Well, i sure killed your argument didn't i?
We're laying into him due to his outdated and pompous opinions about normal people that aren't upper class.
Read the thread and then maybe you'll be able to comment
What are you, stupid or something?
I haven't said anything of the sort. It is clear that you're taking the fact that I consider the correct form of english to be called Queen's English and that I am a royalist, and pretending that i think the queen is any different than you or i. i don't, she is no different. i just think that she has a job, she does it well, she doesn't go murdering people because she doesn't like them. so what if she is the source of taxpayers money? someone's got to do the job she does. I am not upper class. I am social grade 1.2 actually. I have never actually said that she has a right to be Queen, i'm saying that she is a good head of state.
The Queen (and the rest of the Royal Cunts) can suck on my balls.
That is all.
I haven't said anything of the sort. It is clear that you're taking the fact that I consider the correct form of english to be called Queen's English and that I am a royalist, and pretending that i think the queen is any different than you or i. i don't, she is no different. i just think that she has a job, she does it well, she doesn't go murdering people because she doesn't like them. so what if she is the source of taxpayers money? someone's got to do the job she does. I am not upper class. I am social grade 1.2 actually. I have never actually said that she has a right to be Queen, i'm saying that she is a good head of state. [/B][/QUOTE]
Seriously now, the argument died a few minutes ago when fiend came in and everyone suddenly realised that there was no longer a valid reason to argue with you due to the fact that nothing sinks in. Now leave the thread to drop to thesite archives.
[Edited because dr.carter can't quote]
So that means dr carter can too?
So basically, all the display stuff that we don't actually need.
So, tax payers pay for her and her entire family to live a life of luxuary for something the prime minister could do? At least we're getting our money's worth!
I'd rather pay for the prime ministers flight to some country than pay for Prince Andrew's helicopter escorts to golf trips, the rest of the family's luxuary lifestyle, fee's for top schools, their numerous holidays etc.
Yeah, 'cause greeting the Grand Emporer of France would take up so much of his time.
The war in Iraq left 90% of people in this country's life uneffected. Point?
Yeah, and we shouldn't have ever had that either.
You really think the PMs gonna turn round and go "Hey, let's have a vote on who thinks the Royal Family should stay, and who thinks they should go!"?
That's the point. She's no different from you or I, yet she's living a hell of alot of a better life than the vast majority of us ever will - and she didn't earn or work for any of it.
You seem to have missed my point :banghead:
When would he have time to manage the country? I'm sure he could take time out from the oh-so hard dinner's he'd now have to attend
Some people do worship them. I knew some girls at my school (before they disapeared...) who made out to be upset and cry about Diana's death over a year later. Seriously, get a fucking grip. What's she ever done for you anyway? Plus, why do people give a shit what people in the public eye do? It's not just royalty, I fucking despise any woman that reads Heat, and refuse to let them suck my cock.
You said, in a sarcastic manner: "Oh, and of course, the majority of Britons certainly know what's best for the country in terms of international relations don't they."
Well yes, they do seeing as this is a democracy. This has everything to do with the queen, if the majority of the voters want her gone.
Um, she kinda does when I have to pay for her, her family, and her whole fucking lifestyle.
Yeah, someone would have to. And in other countries they manage that without the taxpayer reaching deep into their pocket to fund the rest of their unnesessary crap.
I don't even know where to start with this one.
Yeah there is. The majority of royalists are weird, creepy and obsessive.
Yep.
He ain't never had a teabagging like this before!
Really? Nothing sinks in does it? Well i'll grant you that the Queen should have declined the decision to go to war. That was wrong of her. However, depending on the evidence she was presented with (which could have been Tony's bullshit dossier etc) she could have made the rational conclusion that Iraq was a direct threat. We don't know. I don't think we can comment because we don't know whether she just rushed the thing through or actually asked for good reasons why she should.
I'm not royalty...
But you are a Royal loving Cunt.
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WTF!? It's their fucking oil!
But we do need it, for the purposes of diplomacy.
If i had my way, the Queen would have just a couple of houses and a lot less money, her art would be in public galleries and she would only have enough decent china to throw the odd state banquet.
Well who runs the government when the Prime Minister's away? Although granted, there is no need for most of the luxuries they enjoy.
The Prime Minister does not have time to deal with all the massive state visits. Plus, the Queen goes and opens schools and hospitals, which is largely ceremonial, but someone has to do it. The Queen doesn't actually have to run the country. Politicians do.
The war in Iraq affects the entire world and killed hundreds of our countrymen. I think that's very much more important than the Royal Family to vote on.
Why not?
She does actually do things for it. Although I won't deny her luxuries are excessive.
all of these things are about entertaining the foreign dignitaries without offending them. if the person they're visiting isn't there, they tend to get a little shirty and start increasing import tax from the UK and things.
Well would you be happy if she didn't cost you as much but did the same job, thus freeing the politicians to actually run the country?
Who pays for the US president to go on state visits? Mickey Mouse?
unfair generalisation. suppose i said that all homosexuals were limp-handed arse-wiggling anus-bandits? which if course i don't think, but that's basically what you've just done.
Yes, it's their oil. We need to buy it. We need to be nice to them so they'll sell it to us. Or would you prefer to run cars on cow dung?
Acutally, that'd be great, though no doubt we'd run out of shit after a while.
No problem. Doofay could keep us supplied for years just by talking.
Or maybe to increase the amount further we could just use the queens annual christmas speech to supply us for the year?
Look, i'll be the first to agree that the Queen drains money from the state, and that a lot of the stuff she does is just ceremonial. However, that ceremonial stuff keeps our nation in favour with other countries. Would you be in favour of paying her a reasonable salary, say £200,000, funding her flights and the upkeep of a couple of castles/palaces on the understanding that she pays for any more she wants herself, (she can afford it based on her investments) placing the majority of her artwork in the National and the Tate, and insisting that any luxuries she wants she pays for out of her own pocket?
What if we modelled the monarchy on the Dutch monarchy?
Myself, i'm all for disbanding the monarchy but leaving the castles etc as tourist sites. British people get stereotyped so much on the monarchy, and it tends to be the actual sites that are the tourist attraction, not the monarchy as they generally aren't there anyway.