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Bush calls for gay marriage ban
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story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3518117.stm
"President George W Bush has endorsed a constitutional amendment that would ban marriages of same-sex couples."
a constitutional amendment - so it's not as simple as changing the law... it's changing the whole foundations of law isn't it? I'm not to up to date with how America works (who is?) but the constitution is meant to be the all important thing isnt it? Likle the magna carva or something
(i forget)
personally I think George Bush is a christian crusader trying to convert the world. his main objective is to follow the bible just about - not to ensure the welfare of his country. does he realise that there are muslims, hindus, bhuddists and jews in his country as well?? (well i think they don't endorse same-sex marriage anyway but you can see my point right?)
please someone get this guy out of office
and if people are in love in a same-sex relationship why dont you let them marry? Dubya makes out that it's some crime against 'the most enduring human institution".
opinions people?
"President George W Bush has endorsed a constitutional amendment that would ban marriages of same-sex couples."
a constitutional amendment - so it's not as simple as changing the law... it's changing the whole foundations of law isn't it? I'm not to up to date with how America works (who is?) but the constitution is meant to be the all important thing isnt it? Likle the magna carva or something
(i forget)personally I think George Bush is a christian crusader trying to convert the world. his main objective is to follow the bible just about - not to ensure the welfare of his country. does he realise that there are muslims, hindus, bhuddists and jews in his country as well?? (well i think they don't endorse same-sex marriage anyway but you can see my point right?)
please someone get this guy out of office
and if people are in love in a same-sex relationship why dont you let them marry? Dubya makes out that it's some crime against 'the most enduring human institution".
opinions people?
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Bush changes the US constitution to reflect that gay marriage is wrong.
Education in US is geared towards spreading this ignorance + starts a gay hate campaign - "they're sick".
Bush calls for an international recognition that gay marriage is wrong everywhere, and tries to get other countries to follow suite. Some do, some don't.
Those that don't, bush enforces trade boycotts on these countries. These countries band together to stop the US opression of freedom and trade between themselves (several other US laws have been made by this time, including a law which gives the american government access to anybody's privacy anywhere on the world to prevent terrorism and organised crime).
Bush sends in the 'liberating' troops to these countries - forcing them to comply with the 'law'.
By this time all of the 'western world' has been educated that America is right and anyone else is wrong, so no one can stand up for these countries.
The last of democracy is lost.
hehe
Civil unions are the way forward for gay couples.
I dunno where you get all this nonsense about Bush trying to 'convert' the rest of the world.
i dont think it will go quite that far darling!!
The church does not allow homosexuality, you cannot force them to marry people who go against all their creed and beliefs.
Once again, go civil unions.
Organised religion is hypocrisy anyways, Pro-life & Pro-death penalty, claims to belief in charity and simultaneous support for overt militant acts of aggression against foreign lands, belief that all god has made he declared "good" whilst condemning even heterosexual expression as dirty and evil.
If you base your arguments on what organised religions teach then you are standing on shifting sand.
Good debating tactic.
Its the equal of your methods.
In this particular debate I argued for civil unions for gay couples, as gay marraiges within the church would serve no purpose other that to split and damage it.
Well exactly. Which rather scuppers Matadore's argument.
So heres me been thinking ive been married for 8 years, because I didnt get married in church by a priest that makes me not married ?
Oh Dear my hubby (no he aint my hubby is he) aint gonna be pleased cos ive just planned my anniversary night out at a nice posh hotel
That told you Blagsta
But doesn't it say in Paul:
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Or something like that... depends on which part of the Bible you look at.
I wouldn't say organised religion is entriely bad, I'd say people with power using religion as an excuse to enforce prejudice is the problem.
Well of course! There's nowt wrong with loving somebody is there?
I despise homophobia, partly because I don't consider myself as heterosexual and partly because I have some very dear bisexual and gay friends. Why the hell should people discriminate over sexual preference in the first place? A fundemental human need is to be loved and a need for affection and if they get it from the same sex then so be it.
Denying a person the right to love and be loved is like denying somebody food or shelter and Bush is just using the Bible to discriminate and force his own personal views upon people.
It's sad really
The fact is that there are currently married homosexual couples in the US and none in the UK.........
No , because I said civil unions are the way forward for gay couples. They are very different to normal marraige in a church.
People can get married out of a church. It has the same legal status as one in a church. I think you're grasping at straws...