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Why did you join weight watchers? Your getting sucked into their money making scams. They may be helpful, but you don't need weight watchers to tell you that eating e.g. a chocolate bar is not healthy, and eating e.g. a salad sandwich on brown bread is. Your really wasting your time and money.
You don't need to be a size 8 to be considered 'not fat', you need an average or low amount of bodyfat to be considered 'not fat'.
You may be active, but like you said, eat the one single doughnut, and all of that exercise will go to waste.
'Comfort eating'.....ummm...I've heard of the phrase, but I consider it to be the lousiest excuse that a fat person can give for eating rubbish. Why can't you 'comfort eat' on a healthy baguette (without spreading margarine on it)? Like I said earlier, people who do these unhealthy things don't deserve to be slimmer.
Can I just say, they didn't eat like this during the war at all! Rationing was in place so the reason they didn't put on an ounce was because they were forced to watch what they ate. After the war, people when nuts cuz sugar was available and that's when the weight trouble started. Ask me Gran!
How much comfort do you think a baguette would give you? You really have no idea do you.
If only you could take a step back and realise that everyone does not have to be perfect to live a worthwhile and happy life and that some of these people are doing their damned hardest to lose the weight and you're just knocking them back with your crass views on what they should actually be doing. It doesn't happen overnight, things like Weight Watchers don't just tell you it's not healthy to eat a chocolate bar, they give you support through a difficult time. It's not just about not eating unhealthy things, it's about changing a whole lifestyle. Besides, for lots of fat people they have much deeper issues than being fat which need to be sorted out first. If you are still unhappy (which is often for reasons other than being fat) then you won't be able to stop "comfort eating" etc.
Stop being so insensitive and just deal with the fact that you are thin, some people are not. Some are clever, some are not.
Do we go around telling "thick people" to get an education? and that it's not that hard to read a book etc? LEAVE PEOPLE BE.
Youre just using it as a way to slag off fat people, you arent even attempting to understand the problems that cause people to have weight problems.
Maybe you have some personal issues about your fat past you need to deal with?
Overweight people have eating disorders, its not limited to underweight anorexics, they find it hard to stop eating, ie comfort eating, just because you dont and wont try to understand what this means, doesnt mean its not a real problem.
Youre living in an ideal world where none of us have emotional problems, are all educated adequately to prepare us for life and can afford to buy good food, hey wakey wakey babe! REAL life is screwed, we are constantly bombarded with ads for food we cant eat, posessions we cant afford, body images we cant acheive. Some are strongwilled enough to resist, some arent.
One day you'll grow up to realise that everything isnt as simple as youd like it to be and people are more than stereotypes, faces without feelings.
Oh you idiot. Jesus, I was going to comment on the fact that I feel sorry for you because you don't seem to understand people at all, but it seems to me that you don't want to.
Excuse me and a million other people out there for being over weight. I'm terribly sorry if I can't bring myself to gorge on lettuce and superduperfatfreepackedfullofchemicalsbutter. People comfort eat for a reason. Comfort foods are often fattening foods. So fucking what?! What business is it of yours as to what other people eat and how they exercise?! What on EARTH does that have to do with you?! Just because you used to be a 'fat kid who couldn't help it' but now your fit and healthy, DOESNT mean you have the right to put other people down.
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Talk about nit picking! :rolleyes:
I'm just trying to point out that the generations before us didn't have any concerns with healthy eating and ate quite a fatty diet. In turn those eating habits have been passed down to many of this generation. Fair enough I generalised, but hey-ho....
Anyway, I might as well answer your question. Whats it got to do with me?.....well if fat people aren't gonna do something about obesety, then thats where people like us have to step in. Ask yourself, whats it got to do people like Weight Watchers, Slim Fast, Tony Little, Mr Motivator.......(except for the fact that their making money and I'm not).
I wasn't trying to nit pick. I just didn't understand your point. Now you've clarified it, I do understand. Thank you!
Im curious....but if you are ashamed, i understand.
Ok, I agree with you, I wasn't directly addressing the issue at hand.
But does it really matter? Isn't obesity a personal issue rather than a public one?
is that not a little hypocritical?
And also, if anyone on here were to go on about "long live skinny booty girls" then i'm sure they'ld be a riot about discriminating the bigger woman...:rolleyes:
generally, what a lot of poeple do when arguing about the bigger poeple is totally put down the smaller people whislt doing so.. such as 'well at least we got curves, at least we dont look like we're about to snap, at least we dont look like geri haliwell, that skinny so&so, long live the bigger women' etc. The thing that gets to me that this is totally viable, wheras if a smaller person were to pose the same reversed statements then they would get a LOT of abuse about it.... im not making myself clear, but people generally dont realsie that they are hurting the feelings of others when saying such comments.
..not a lot to do with this post..sorry, i went on abit
oh, and I do genrally agree with the initial idea, but was just put a bit too harshly
:rolleyes: I can promote big booty girls if I want!! Nothing that I have said has been directed towards thin girls, I am simply saying that there is nothing wrong with being big! :thumb:
so why cant cracendo promote thinner people without having a riot on his hands...with you as one of the ring leaders..
to be honest i do think its a bit of a money racket, basically im paying £4 a week to get weighed. but each week you get a new booklet with menu plans and recipes and tips. and i also stay for the class where you hear about peoples success stories and it gives you motivation. also, so far its the only thing that is working for me. i have been going for 3 weeks and i have already lost half a stone. say what you like about it, but i really dont care what you think cos im gonna keep going anyway.
i dont know where you got this idea to start up this thread and spark off this big debate, because at the end of the day other peoples weight is nothing to do with you. you can try and give someone as much motivation as you want, but at the end of the day if they want to do something about it they will.
This is a forum people can express their opinions and feelings, the way in which crescendo worded his post was very offending in my point of view - basically sterotyping how fat people are and how they should act etc. He wasn't promoting thinner people he was telling fat people exactly what he thought of them and how they disgust him when he sees them eating! :rolleyes:
When i read his post, i read it in the way that he was putting his opinions and feelings across, and although yes it was harsh, I could have been done in a much better way, at a basic level he was simply 'promoting' a healthier 'lifestyle', because it is a fact that overweight people can suffer from various health risks, such as high blood pressure, etc. I could have sworn that he said several times that he wasnt doing this, but was annoyed at the way those pople who are overweight moan about their weight, and then eat unhealthily. Isn't it? thats what it seemed like when i read though it. Crecendo posted his opinion, although not in the best of ways, but still his opinion, and he got back a lot of personal insults.
Anwya, sorry about arguing with you, wasn't directed directly at you, just one of those moments
"YOU EAT FAT, YOU GET FAT!"
"YOU EAT CHOCOLATE, YOU GET FAT!"
"I'm not even fat, and do you know how many crisps, chocolates, and sweets I eat in a day........NONE!! ZERO!! 0%".
Thanks 'its meeeee' for noticing that.
I'd have to disagree with you there! There's alot of stuff out there marketed as 'food' which has no nutitional content whatsoever and should not be consumed (or even sold) in my opinion!! Fresh is best after all!
Some foods are also 'bad' for you if, like me, you have medical problems and get ill if you eat them.
I put on a lot of weight when I was depressed because I'd comfort eat as food made me feel better, almost compencating for that empty hole inside. I put on weight because of what I ate and got made fun of. Being made fun of about your weight hurts like hell and I ate because I felt bad about myself. A vicious cycle.
"I eat because I'm unhappy and I'm unhappy because I eat..." Ring any bells?
BMI is the biggest pile of shit ive ever seen in my life
Every moderately successful bodybuilder would be classed as obese on the BMI scale. It doesnt take muscle into account.
You could have someone who weighed 16 stone at 5'10" with 5% bodyfat and they would be classed as obese..
Total rubbish...Russel Crowe, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Stallone etc are all obese by the BMI scale. Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt are classed as overweight.