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The rape thing incidentaly caused such a huge furore that should he have decided to show his face at another meet hed have been forcibly ejected by most of the members.
The thread was removed becuase his comments were causing several members to (rightly I felt) Threaten his physical well being.
What I wrote there is tame in comparison with some of the things he said he felt he had a right to do should the need arise.
He does seem to have some "issues" which makes certain people have sympathy for him but really "issues" or not anyone who posts on an open forum that they think sex is a right that should be taken forcibly if the need arises, needs to be ummmm "supervised"
keeping his flat would have meant getting a job...getting a job wouldn't have left him enough time to (and I quote) "Get off with women"
"All women are bastards because they wont let me get off with them!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: "
"Women dont know I'm trying to get off with them you idiot!!!! I go up to them and just start talking to them!!!!"
As Es said, several people, including myself, began to advise him to stay away from any future meet-ups or we couldn't guarentee his safety.
I have a feeling that once he sees this we might not see him again for a while.
He'll come here and argue furiously with myself and bellies( who incidentally is totally correct what he says about steelgates posts)
About what weve said.
He seriously believes he is justified in his views:rolleyes:
The Iraqi people are the ones to get rid of Saddam and maybe they would have done so by now if they weren't kept in such extreme poverty by economic sanctions!
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
Has'nt put him off nowt short of a bomb wold put him off:rolleyes:
Really Steelgate, you lost all humanist credibility once these allegations were posted.
Not that we really took you seriously anyway, but how can we view you as being concerned about other people's suffering, all the while you don't believe that rape is a crime.
Also war is the ultiminate crime! I wonder how many people who support the coming war with Iraq would still support it if they had relatives living in Iraq or had been to Iraq themselves and seen the extreme suffering there caused by 12 years of sanctions and the results of the last Gulf War!
http://www.socialistparty.org.uk
Really, I think that statment should stand on its own. I'm not even going to comment on it...
scum :mad:
Besides, if I had relatives in Iraq you uneducated bastard I'd be quite happy for our troops to go in and sort Saddam out, if it meant they would have a chance of a decent life.
I'm of the opinion that it would take for he himself to be sexually assaulted for him to realise the difference between stealing a loaf of bread and a serious sexual assault.:mad:
conveniently ignored your request for answers to turtle.
the loaf of bread and the sex thing is extremely dangerous stuff.
surely this guy should have been banned from the site by now.
i've been banned myself for silly stuff...this is seriously frightening ! this is a sick and dangerous nutter. he should be tracked down and given a serious moment.
Then after the war they would face a shattered country in total ruins which would take years to rebuild and they would have to careful where they stepped to avoid unexploded cluster bombs. Cluster bombs were used in the last Gulf War and thousands of Iraqi people were killed or maimed by them in the years after the war!
http://www.stopwar.org.uk
Are you just trying to keep a society in existence where rape is blamed on the woman? Is that what this is really about?
That isnt what you said at all. You said back on Liv that if YOU were desperate for sex YOU would take it.
You then said you did'nt think If YOU raped that it should be treated any more seriously than if you had stolen a loaf of bread becuase women would not shag you willingly so therefore you had a right to go and take it forcibly.
It is entirely relevant.
When you claim to be concerned about the welfare of people, your position on rape proves otherwise.
There is a huge difference between starving and being horny.
You cannot blame the allies for consription, just as you cannot blame the allies because the Iraq Govt does not give a high enough priotiry to ensuring that its citizens are fed.
Might not put him off but I would very gladly put him down, for the good of all, and just like a dog.
I guarantee the exact opposite, especially if he's ever found to have come close to enacting the views he just spouted.
I don't usually post here, but this made me mad :mad:
Rape, more often then not, isn't even about sex. It's about power. And the rapist NEVER deserves sympathy.
And how can rape be "not that serious" if the perpetrator is desparate for sex? Is a brutal murder "not that serious" if the perpetrator is desparate for violence? The motive of a crime does not determine it's seriousness! :impissed: :banghead:
Tell you what
You DISGUST ME, youre just a sad excuse for a piece of shit on the floor !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you know what its like to be raped???
Be in bed and a so called male friend comes in and does this to you??? This so called friend didnt lack sex, he had a bloody girlfriend !!!!!!!!!!!! If someone was desperate for sex then they should pay a prostitute not rape some innocent person, then leave their victim with depression, lack of self confidence and all the rest.
No matter what circumstances, anyone who rapes should be treat with very serious consequenses. Me Id personally castrate the sick bastards.
Why do you post CRAP like this????
Im gonna shut up now before I say anything I may regret:mad:
If a thread gets started purely to piss some-one off, its almost garuenteed to end up pissing off a lot more people than the orginal post intended.
Steelgate : Heres some advice: your saying things in a context where your words can easily be misinterpreted.
You're trying to defend yourself and you views, which is an admirable and couragous thing to do, but in this thread, with so many people already set against you, you will end up giving more and more people reasons to dislike you.
If I were you I'd give up on this and concentrate on other threads thoughout the board. This was set up to make you look bad and it seems as if its working.
If you want to reply to this PM me, rather than post.
Thats just my advice, I'm not trying to tell you what to do.
Actually I think his comments alone have done that.
Surely you aren't defending his view on rape, which is what has made him look soooo bad...
ok i got THAT far and didnt really want to read anymore.
give me 30mins in a cell with him. but like, give me a baseball bat too.
That question is totally irrelevent to this disscusion! But I never said rape was the fault of women just that people have a need for sex and that in many cases rape is not that serious if someone has been unable to get it any other way and has only resorted to rape out of desperation. In those cases people need to be more sympathetic to the rapist.
Hah. Just saw that.
Let him be raped. Then he can come back and share his views. Anyone who can possibly think like that is just...twisted, and doesn't deserve basic human right. He is well deserving of having his bollocks cut off or a nice bullet to the head but....that's about it.
Rape is ALWAYS serious. It means shit if the poor ickle wapist cant get a fucking girlfriend. Sex isn't a right, it should be earned. After working as a prostitute I'm probably not really in much of a position to criticise but...eurgh. Sorry, this man makes me feel sick.
Sympathy for a rapist because he can't get sex? Try having someone force it on you. You won't be sympathetic in the slightest.
No one ever has the right to force it on someone all because they want sex and if you believe that then the only way you're going to realise just what it's like is if you are raped yourself.
Ugh, I can't be bothered with you.
Rape is a crime no matter what. You cannot simply be a rapist in mind. Either you rape someone and become a rapist or you arent a rapist. Its quite simple.
Being a paedophile is not a crime. Abusing a child as a result of being a paedophile is a crime.
Steelgate is a very disturbed man and we should all stay well away from him.
:mad: Why the fuck haven't the mods banned him yet?