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Point taken
I only need numbers to work out how many Maseratis I can afford with my annual bonus :thumb:
Kudos. I would have had to look up all but two in order to understand that sentence.
Mmm, not really. You were using it in a context which implied that it was somehow useful. It isn't. It is pure laziness and it has no use that I am aware of.
I edited my original comment and apologise if it was snippy. I don't want to get into a debate. You're right that it isn't a language.
Thunderstruck struggling to pick out which colour Maseratis he wanted, yesterday.
At a basic level language is the use of symbols / sounds to communicate. Therefore I think text talk has to come under the language umbrella.
If people want to use text talk in places where others can choose whether or not to read what they have written, I don't see the problem. Sure in a work place its not appropriate, but in texts or on facebook where we have a choice over what we read, I think its up to the individual. I think too bigger a deal is made of it most of the time.
I find text talk slightly annoying, but some people like to use it for informal chat. If I can't read it / don't want to read it - I don't.
I can see why text talk exists, same way as we had our own code words and language at school when I was a kid. It shouldn't ever be encouraged in a school setting though. It's like teaching 4 year olds how to spell fuck and shit, pointless and inappropriate.
Last December, I attended the christening of the baby of my girlfriend's brother. After leaving the church, we had to go over to the house of the gf's brother's wife's parents (keeping up? Good) for a celebratory buffet. After entering the house, I was greeted with the sight of a three-year old boy running around the kitchen, chasing a little dog around, shouting "Get over here, ya wee cunt!" at him.
Where he learnt such words from is a mystery. And no, he hadn't met me previously, if anyone is feeling cheeky enough to ask.
Is text talk just one of those things kids grow out of, or does it stay around? There does seem to be more of this mangled English around right now.
People will use it. Accept that aspect and move on to just fighting against it being taught in schools or being marked as "acceptable" in examinations.
Not if a person already understands the message. It is how information and communication works.
I stand that a dislike of text talk is just hankering back to the good old days, when it's normal for language to evolve.
I still would like to know, from anybody posting in this thread, why language is or should be fixed, and who determines this? And more fittingly, who determines this for the English language?
This isnt language evolving though, it might be quicker to write but it takes an awful lot longer to comprehend.
but in any communication (or at least a successful one) there has to be mutual understanding. millions of persons in the UK and around the world understand it well enough, otherwise it would have no purpose.
I do understand it, im not saying I dont, Im just saying its much harder to read text talk, and coincidentally on a full keyboard (not a phone) and when handwriting, its much easier to put the english in full. So if it does occur that its easier to write it and understand what is written, why are you so against standards being upheld regarding the english language.
text talk does have its own standards. all language by definition has standards.
like u for you, lol for laugh out loud, etc.
There you go again with a sweeping statement that doesnt actually answer any of the arguments put against you.
I give up.
Oh really?
http://vbulletin.thesite.org/showpost.php?p=2329155&postcount=9
Hellfire's thread.
It seems to me that it's another symptom of a society that requires instant gratification; taking the time to actually write a whole word just gets in the way, in the same way as walking for fifteen minutes is unacceptable so people drive instead; over a quarter of all car journeys are under 2 miles. Or people taking out loans with huge interest rates so that they can buy a new iPhone, because they want it NOW! Forget taking pride and pleasure in your language, the act of writing and the art of communication (because it IS an art), let's get this out of the way with so that I can go do something else. Like put my ready meal in the microwave.
A phenomenon I've recently noticed is kids using words that look like text speak, but which are actually longer than the word in its un-fuggered form! An example from my friend's 15 year old sister's facebook status: "propaaar tyred now bt newayzzz Kaffrin doe yhoo wnnta goe 2 ice skating wiv meee tooooniteee??"
I shit you not - actual facebook status. Scares the b'Jesus out of me.