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Now why does she get the "for gods sakes" and "you said you were going to do this" and "for fucks sakes" yet he gets, oh nothing.
I know lacry's background but give her a break. All you lot telling her what shes doing wrong and how bad she is is not helping her. If you were helping she would have sorted herself out.
Nothing worse than people telling you you are stupid when you already feel it. A break from the constant nagging might do her some good.
(sorry for talking like your not reading stace)
What do you mean by
?? You are making it sound like it's our fault.
I wasn't trying to nag! It's hard to see these type of posts and not to respond. Jeez.
What I meant was that people have been offering her advice throughout this with the odd "gawd you look awful" and what the hell are you doing to yourself and so on and she is still struggling. This "harsh" pull yourself together approach obviously isn't helping Stace, as she keeps going back to these crash diets and vigorous excerise and weightloss.
I was just suggesting it might be best for her for people to not respond so shocked or sort of, I don't know I can't think of the word for it. A more sympathetic approach may be better - thats all I was saying.
I understand its hard not to respond - and I'm not suggesting you shouldn't. Stace must be finding it helpful or she wouldnt continue to post.
/ignore me if im talking shyte
:banghead:
'cos that explains yourself...
maybe acting shocked is making it worse?
it's just so dangerous! it's hard to know how to respond
exactly. You just summed it up.
I just think that the way people have reacted in the past hasn't helped so mabye people need to rethink how they react.
I just feel for you Stace and hope your OK
booyahhhh
I bought some pills from a steroid website. I wont name them here, but they were designed as a broncho-dilator for people with asthma and it is used in the middle-east type of places but banned in the uk and usa except for vetinary use.
The way they act on certain receptors in your brain increases your metabolism and temperature, burning more fat and calories.
However, this also means that they increase your heartbeat and breathing and make you shake like a leaf. You have to gradually increase your dose, only use them for a certain amount of time then, taper the dose back down and then you have to take a break.
The first time i used them, i lost a little bit of weight but spent all day trying to work with my hands shaking so bad i could hardly write, and would be wide awake at night with my heart thumping and feeling like i would either suffocate or have a panic attack.
ive just finished a second cycle, the side-effects werent as bad at all, but i already had to increase the dosage to the highest reccommended dosage i could find and ive lost nothing. It also costs me almost £40 for a 3week cycle.
i would do pretty much anything to lose the lbs (diagnosed eating disorder) but i doubt ill et them again because for all the hassel of it, its just not worth the effort.
And, a certain celebrity who went crazy was using them too.
That's awesome, well done!
In terms of other stuff that's been said, in all honesty, I've made an effort to step away from this thread for a few days now, and take things elsewhere, hence my lack of reply for a lot of stuff. Nothing personal but there are some people who I think I could learn a lot of things from and it's probably a good time for me to have a bit of an internet diet.
Eat well, lift heavy, run fast, enjoy
I am far from the most experienced BBer/athlete whatever on the planet but I do have about 5 years experience behind me now, and about 2 years of intense diet related research.
While this doesn't make everything OK, it does enable me to take things to more extremes and do them safely and know my limits.
I wouldn't advise crash dieting to anyone who doesn't have a specific aim or goal to achieve, and if you are going to do it, you need to make sure you're getting EFAs, multivits etc.. but most important, only doing it for a very short period of time!
TBH I certainly wouldn't advise someone like Stacey to go on it, purely because I think the level she is at already is very good, and with a structured diet and maybe some cardio, she could have an astounding physique, long term..
But if she is, then I'd rather she did it according to a plan and getting her nutrients, than just doing what most uneducated people do in that circumstance - and just stop eating, full stop.
Hope that clears up my stance a little - good luck to everyone whatever they decide.
If you need any help and I'm not posting, just drop me a PM and point me in the direction of the post, I'm always willing to help..
Phil
When I add cardio in to the tune of 200-250 kcals a day, I will also increase in put by that much
Will insert some images of typical days in a bit
Not a lot of cals really, bleh! Going to do it that low probs for 2 weeks or so until I see a physical difference, just a psychological boost, then slowly up the cals to a normal weight loss program, probably 500 under maintainance, so around 2000 cals per day.
Plus if I do cardio each lunch time (hoping to as soon as my cold is better) that will give me another 250 to play with either for bigger loss, or more to eat hehe.
Just can't wait to be able to lift again, and bulk!
Good luck to you too
Hi RG
That's not my crash diet, I was going to do a crash diet on 600-ish cals per day
That is reasonably low cal but not desperately or dangerously by any means
I posted it as I thought people may be interested - maybe I was wrong?
Oh okay, I thought this was the crash diet (I didn't read the daily totals).
I eat under 600 KCal on a normal day but my BMR is a lot less than yours (mine is only about 1250 KCal), but that is due to depression etc. I think my eating is a bit fucked up at the moment and although I only lose about 1lb or so a week it's been going on for a bit long now and doesn't have clear end point.
That just fucked both those days up! 1500 kcals lol
Oh well, I'm still happy with that about tbh, I'm not fucking changing it again lol
I spent ages today drawing up a list of food sources and breaking down the macros
<600 is ridiculously low for anyone hun - you should get that in check TBH
Phil
Wouldn't like to neck it on its own, although I have done it with eggs or a protein shake lol
Lol, sorry if that messed up your numbers!
Yeah, I know it's not great, my GP is going to moniter my weight now to check if it gets too low. I'm not really sure at what point they think of it as problematically low though? Or indeed what they can do about it anyway.
Yeah its nice to do different dressings - I'm a vege too, hence my weird diet and oils;) :thumb:
Thanks for your reply. I am already in therapy quite intensively although the eating issues seem to have arisen more recently.
Veggie is good :thumb:
It seems next time I have curry, if I have it without rice I'm in the clear
Sorry, I found the bit about calorie management really interesting.
I think it's fine to have a couple of hundred over one day, you'll probably have a couple of hundred under on another day, or maybe you'll burn bit more with a bit of extra activity?
My friend is making that snickers cake next weekend, the one that got in the press for being 1250 KCal per slice :eek2: That's how many I'm meant to need per day though
Shyboy - whats your height/weight? 1800ish sounds low for maintenance